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For me the biggest advantage is that vans fully enclose their cargo: good against climate and less likely to lose stuff to theft.
For towing capacity, this article gives 3 models that can tow 3.5 ton: https://www.vanarama.com/blog/vans/van-towing-capacity-chart-whats-the-best-van-for-towing
Seating can be however you want it to be. Vans are also used as mini buses, so all seating configurations in between no passengers and all passengers are possible.
Those are all bigger in every dimension than a ute though.
So, I repeat my question. How is a bigger, likely less efficient vehicle an improvement over a ute? Especially considering they can't travel off road.
Also, lockable canopies are commonplace where I live.
Yeah, moving goalposts now are we :D
I could try look up a smallish van with high towing capacity, it's probably not even that hard to find, seeing how easily I found multiple vans that fitted your earlier criteria, but somehow I know that I'd be wasting my time. You'll grasp at any straw and think up any rare scenario to justify your belief in trucks.
Trucks have their applications sure, especially for gardening/farming or other mobile crews that can benefit from having that mobile open bed near them, but for most work crews, vans are the better solution.
You didn't answer my question. How is a van inherently better than a ute of similar size? What's the difference?
And you could drive a Kei truck into the vans with a 3500kg tow rating.
Why don't we reverse this question and put the burden of proof on you? I've already looked up things and proven that stuff that you thought did not exist, did infact exist. So since I put in the work earlier, it's only fair that it's now your turn: you can look up a van and a similar sized truck and then make a comparison in what ways one is better than the other. Stuff like price, cargo sq space, cargo volume, cargo weight, towing limit etc. By using that comparison we will then be able to make an informed decision as to which one is best for your imagined situation. I'm looking forward to your comparison and conclusions.
You haven't proven anything, I was aware that monster "vans" built on a truck chassis exist.
You're making the claim, you back it up.
I've done my part, you're the one moving the goal posts. The burden of proof now falls onto you.
The goalpost has remained in the same location the whole time. Why is a van inherently better than a ute?
Nope, that question again goes way beyond your earlier disingenuous questions, you've the most the goalposts even further this time. So yeah, go waste your own time.
You should be more honest with yourself though. The only reason that you act like a vanity truck is a better utility vehicle than a van, is your ego. All your disingenuous trolling just helps to underline the point that's it not about which vehicle is actually most suitable for the job, it's all about satisfying that ego.
And there is nothing wrong with satisfying ego, everyone makes purchases that might not be the most practical, but which are simply more fun too them. But when you do, you don't have to make a fool out of yourself by pretending that your decision was based on practicality while everyone can see that it's about vanity.
I've explained, multiple times, using small words, why a ute is often a better option than a van.
You, on the other hand, have written unhinged text walls ranting about ego, while ignoring the very simple and straightforward case I've made.
You need help.
You were too stupid to realize that vans exist in many forms and configurations until I showed you that they did. You calling me stupid is not very convincing.
I am well aware of the existence of many configurations of van. I drive one for work, I know what they can and can't do.