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To whomever is reading this conspiracionist crap, this person above is describing as mere "vandals" people who refused to accept the results of the elections, spent months camping in front of army QGs and later breaking into the congress, supreme court and destroying every fuckin thing they could find demanding a violent coup d'etat in support of a caricatural corrupt fascist piece of shit.
I'd like to remind you that the only instance a person can be sentenced to death in Brazil is for treason. So for getting 17 years (and we know very well that they won't stay there that long if they behave) I'd say that they got it lightly.
Also, by saying "censoring people who say things he doesn't like" you all can understand as committing crimes.
Look up what an actual violent coup is before you talk. Chile is a very good example of what it really is. And belive me, its not old ladies and people shitting in tables.
Also, i dont know if you consider yourself a leftist, but you are not. No humanity at all. To say 17 years in the brasilian prisons is light you have no soul at all.
And no, talking is not a crime
Oh, really?! So I can freely say racist homophobic shit to peoples faces and make death threats, spread falsehoods about your mom's sex life and demand a coup d'etat saying that the elections were defrauded without having any fucking evidence of that freely?! What a concept!
But no, these are all crimes according to Brazilian law. If you don't agree with that, become a politician or start a movement and demand change.
And don't you fucking dare to question my level of "leftiness" or my humanity towards people who wants me dead.
You can keep pretending that these were just old innocent old people while ignoring the fact that Bolsonaro himself was recorded among generals planing a coup, having documents to justify the coup in their possessions, that higher ups of the armed forces were onboard. The same Bolsonaro who said that he wanted to gun down and torture his political opponents.
Well, acording to the constitution. But you guys only use it to wipe your asses
Multiple reports on this comment for "lies and disinformation", and while I don't have a dog in this fight other than to say Moraes is the spitting image of Lex fucking Luthor, the statement that "He condemned people to 17 years in prison for vandalism" is, at best, incorrect. He sentenced them for Brazils equivalent of January 6th:
https://www.brasildefato.com.br/2023/09/14/supreme-court-minister-alexanre-de-moraes-votes-for-sentencing-first-coup-plotter-to-17-years-in-prison
Which is on par with what we see here for some 1/6ers:
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4182198-here-are-the-5-longest-jan-6-sentences-so-far/
Id like to know what is a lie or "misinformation", whatever that means
How so? Any argument here or just a feeling?
Brasil is one country, USA is another. Different constitutions and criminal codes, etc
So what? Different countries
Also, i posted a long comment giving historical context of what is happening. You guys come and censor me without any argument other than "people dont like what you said". Let them downvote me so. If this is "misinformation", let people respond with their own versions and then the readers can decide for themselves.
A bunch of people, unhappy with the result of an election, raided the capitol and attempted to overturn that election.
It wasn't simply "vandalism" and attempting to phrase it that way is absolutely a lie.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_attack
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/17/bolsonaro-brazil-coup-report
65% of brasilians think it was vandalism and not a coup. But maybe you know better. Anyway, the way you dismissed everything that i said over one statement (wich is correct, according to the brasilian population, and therefore if you disagree its you whos wrong by going against the democratic outcome of the internal discussion) shows a lot. Keep up the great job
https://www.poder360.com.br/pesquisas/65-acham-que-8-de-janeiro-foi-vandalismo-diz-datafolha/
It doesn't matter what a majority of Brazilians think, a majority of Americans have been led to believe 1/6 was a harmless tourist event.
They're absolutely wrong about that and the video evidence, charging documents, convictions, and jail time bear that out.
Amazing
Amazing that lawyers and judges know more about criminal charges than average citizens?
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It really doesn’t matter. The majority of the population are neither lawyers nor judges. The argument you are making is not relevant.
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