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Transgender Catholics — as well as a priest who welcomes them to his parish — expressed disappointment Monday with a new Vatican document rejecting the fundamental concept of changing one’s biological sex.

In essence, it was a restatement of longstanding Catholic teaching, but the dismay was heightened because recent moves by Pope Francis had encouraged some trans Catholics to hope the church might become more accepting.

The pope has welcomed a community of transgender women to his weekly general audiences. And last year, the Vatican said it’s permissible, under certain circumstances, for trans people to be baptized as Catholics and serve as godparents.

“A document like this is very hurtful to the larger LGBTQ+ community but especially to the trans community,” said Maxwell Kuzma, 32, a lifelong Catholic transgender man working as a film editor and writer in rural Ohio.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 67 points 7 months ago (8 children)

The Vatican document was compiled by a committee of celibate feudal lords wearing archaic robes and signed and endorsed by their celibate king, wearing his silly hat in his magnificent palace, and declaring it all to be the direct word of their god.

I don't think they understand anyone's lives.

Have you seen who guards the Pope? These are not people who live in the real world.

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lmao that is a group of the goofiest looking people I have ever seen

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Goofy, but they train with small arms. To be fair, they do dress in plain clothes when outside the Vatican, but it still shows how divorced from everything they all are, because a lot of the church hierarchy in the Vatican stay there for life.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

I do kinda wish that any military groups keep the same style of dress uniforms from when the regiment was created. The UK does this a little but it would be great seeing a hodgepodge of US regiments looking like Theodore Roosevelt's Roughnecks next to guys in Civil War looking outfits and WWII kit. We still dress people in goofy robes for college and hugh school graduation, so why not the army?

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

surprising that they dont use swords

[–] toastus@feddit.de 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You will be happy to hear they still use halberds instead.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Mmmm halberds. Slicey.

[–] Triteer@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Technically, I think they're called voulges.

[–] toastus@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I am by no means am expert.
I just went of this:

The halberd is still the ceremonial weapon of the Swiss Guard in the Vatican.

And I am pretty sure that in German they call the weapon of the Swiss Guard Hellebarde.

[–] griD@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

Took long enough for an Archer reference ITT. Thanks.

[–] Iapar@feddit.de 7 points 7 months ago

If a clowncar was a state...

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

lol this is an amazing picture, thank you

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

The man who is supposed to be closest to god needs guards to protect him and is driven around in a bullet proof popemobile.

[–] Poayjay@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s weird seeing a picture of the pope where he doesn’t have the silliest hat.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

This pope only wears a slightly silly hat.

[–] whodatdair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago

If someone told me this image was AI i would believe them

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

OH-EE-OH, YO-OH!

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago

declaring it all to be the direct word of their god.

I'm not going to try to defend this any further than to say they're not claiming it's the "direct word of god" or anything. They claim it's their interpretation, and that their interpretation is definitely right, which is probably worse.