I think that may have been the case early into the Nvidia 30-series but now they seem closer in price and performance so I'm pretty sure my next card will be from AMD when I decide I need an upgrade.
here's an article explaining the changes, that article was written before they were merged, but they're merged everywhere now except wlroots. That's coming soon too.
Then you didn't follow closely enough. Nvidia comes up with EGLStreams and Gnome and Plasma accept patches to support this: next release will fix all problems.
Nvidia driver supports GBM: next release will fix all problems.
Only explicit sync is missing but once adopted surely all problems will be fixed.
It's always one last feature that's missing for perfect Wayland support...🤦
Nobody thought eglstreams was a good idea or a solution, gbm fixed being able to use wayland at all, no devs were saying that would resolve all the issues. The issues are currently solved, you can test the changes yourself if you don't believe me, but this truly is the end
i'm not saying wait for the next release because they might solve it, I'm saying the current set of patches is confirmed to solve it.
Sorry, I won't test this myself because I'll never combine Nvidia with Linux for years to come but all the time it was promised that X11 fallback for Nvidia would no longer be needed and everytime it was followed up by countless bug reports that basic features aren't working.
Those randos were Nvidia developers and DE developers making such statements towards distribution maintainers after they asked if removing the automatic X11 fallback for Nvidia GPUs is fine.
It's always "one last feature / Nvidia workaround until it's fine". The same thing since years. Surely this time everything is different.
I'm a happy Nvidia user on Wayland. Xorg had a massive bug that forced me to try out Wayland it has been really nice and smooth. I was surprised, seeing all the comments. But I might've just gotten lucky.
I'm somewhere in between. X11 doesn't work with linux-lts (arch) for me and Wayland stutters occasionally but not always. Usually it happens exclusively in games, some reliably, some when I switch windows and in some when I move around or increase game speed. But I'm excited for explicit sync
hahahaha tell that to nvidia users
Smart Nvidia users are ex Nvidia users
Financially smart Nvidia users are Nvidia users
I don't get what you mean by that
GPU's are expensive. lots of people can't afford to ditch nvidia
Ok, makes sense. I thought you meant that nvidia gpus were cheaper than amd ones, which is obviously not true.
I think that may have been the case early into the Nvidia 30-series but now they seem closer in price and performance so I'm pretty sure my next card will be from AMD when I decide I need an upgrade.
Actually wait until the next de releases hit repos, all the nvidia problems just got solved
What? Tell me more. Now! Please
https://9to5linux.com/developer-explains-why-explicit-sync-will-finally-solve-the-nvidia-wayland-issues
here's an article explaining the changes, that article was written before they were merged, but they're merged everywhere now except wlroots. That's coming soon too.
Ah yes, the next release will always solve all problems since 5 years.
??? I have been following this for years and nobody I have seen has ever said that with nvidia on wayland
either way it has been tested and actually does so...
Then you didn't follow closely enough. Nvidia comes up with EGLStreams and Gnome and Plasma accept patches to support this: next release will fix all problems.
Nvidia driver supports GBM: next release will fix all problems.
Only explicit sync is missing but once adopted surely all problems will be fixed.
It's always one last feature that's missing for perfect Wayland support...🤦
Nobody thought eglstreams was a good idea or a solution, gbm fixed being able to use wayland at all, no devs were saying that would resolve all the issues. The issues are currently solved, you can test the changes yourself if you don't believe me, but this truly is the end
i'm not saying wait for the next release because they might solve it, I'm saying the current set of patches is confirmed to solve it.
Sorry, I won't test this myself because I'll never combine Nvidia with Linux for years to come but all the time it was promised that X11 fallback for Nvidia would no longer be needed and everytime it was followed up by countless bug reports that basic features aren't working.
That's the difference between some randos promising it and the devs extensively testing it and confirming it works universally.
Those randos were Nvidia developers and DE developers making such statements towards distribution maintainers after they asked if removing the automatic X11 fallback for Nvidia GPUs is fine.
It's always "one last feature / Nvidia workaround until it's fine". The same thing since years. Surely this time everything is different.
They were not. I'd need a source for that.
Obviously it won't be all of them but I too am very excited about not having to get lucky with my games flickering or not.
I'm a happy Nvidia user on Wayland. Xorg had a massive bug that forced me to try out Wayland it has been really nice and smooth. I was surprised, seeing all the comments. But I might've just gotten lucky.
I tried wayland with the newest nvidia driver on Arch and it was unusable and extremely unstable.
I'm somewhere in between. X11 doesn't work with linux-lts (arch) for me and Wayland stutters occasionally but not always. Usually it happens exclusively in games, some reliably, some when I switch windows and in some when I move around or increase game speed. But I'm excited for explicit sync
may 15 Arch users are going to be down loading the NoVideo Wayland Driver.