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Downsides of Signal alternatives compared to Signal? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by AprilF00lz@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I'm thinking of the things listed on the Privacy Guides real-time communication section

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/

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[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The password is literally a pin

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you set a small pin, perhaps. Most people set a password

[–] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pin is the suggested option, so I really doubt "most" of the people choose password

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most people who care* I guess would be more apt

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For the people who really care, they can disable The pin. I believe the client will generate a BIP 38 password randomly, and use that for the data encrypted in the SVR. But all the data is still uploaded to the cloud. So if there's a problem with the SVR encoding, the BIP 38 password generation etc the data is still exploited

Not only do you have to care, everyone you talk to has to do the same thing, because if your counterparty has their key in the cloud, the conversation is at risk.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Regardless, the master key is never uploaded

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

All the bits to reconstruct the master key minus the pin code are uploaded. So it's equivalent to uploading to the cloud The master key itself.

Very few people are using BIP 38 level passwords. So the vast majority of people have their key constructively uploaded fully in the cloud