Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
Related Communities
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!askmen@lemmy.world
!mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world
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The idea of unpaid gender-ed labor is generally fascinating, but there's been an awful lot more work on quantifying the unpaid labor of women.
Some articles on the topic for anybody interested:
https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2020/03/calculating-the-value-of-womens-unpaid-work/ https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2019/10/15/blog-the-economic-cost-of-devaluing-women-work https://www.oecd.org/dev/development-gender/Unpaid_care_work.pdf
I think this is an apple to oranges comparison. I'm pretty sure the OP is talking about job skills but the first article is talking about any and all house work. To make that a fair comparison you'd also have to include the labor value of men's house work too (shared with the spouse or a single man who does it all himself).
Definitely wasn't trying to make any sort of comparison. I think we should definitely do the work to quantify unpaid labor for men. Did a little bit of digging and couldn't find anything super useful (I blame google). Did start reading the wikipedia page for Unpaid Work and thought it was worth sharing