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They talk a big game but they aren't actually that unfriendly in practice. They haven't funded terrorist organizations or tried to engineer coups in other countries, mostly because they don't have the money or power to but still there are way worse actors on the world stage that the world happily deals with. Just look at Israel which has almost no international sanctions, and Russia with only about a quarter of the world doing some half assed sanctions for a blatant war of aggression.
They're the hermit kingdom and the leadership is mostly concerned with the brutal subjugation of there own citizens and not international affairs.
They have been making nukes but that's more of a defensive response to the loaded gun the u.s. has been pointing at them since there inception rather than some crazy plot to carry out a suicidal offensive nuclear assault on the u.s. or the south.
Defensive response? North Korea invaded South Korea and almost won in the 1950s, until the UN forces pushed them back from the end of the peninsula and an armistice was reached.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
The north did invade but this wasn't some evil communist dictator attacking an innocent southern democracy. Both sides at the time the war broke out were repressive dictatorships who understood that unification was going to take violence, the north made the first big move but there had been skirmishes prompted by both sides leading up to it. If the south had their military ready Rhee would not have hesitated to invade first if he thought he could win.
After the initial success of the north the U.S. rescued the south and even after recapturing the south continued on to invade the north and carry out a brutal, near genocidal, bombing campaign of the north destroying up to 85% of buildings. Like Israel and Hamas the north did strike "first" but the south and the u.s. hit back disproportionately harder. It is with the memory of that atrocity that the north despises the u.s. and seeks any means of protection against it happening again. They aren't dumb, they know they stand no chance of winning an offensive war while the u.s. is on the peninsula and have given up on doing so, now they're just trying to survive.
None of this is to excuse the kim government for there many domestic atrocities, while the South has opened up since the war the north has remained one of, if not the most , repressive and abusive states out there. Just saying there foreign policy isn't as crazy and aggressive as the west likes to make them out to be.
Man it's refreshing to see people include more context than the usual good vs. bad, clear cut superhero nonsense that dominates the mainstream narrative. Thank you!
See, kids, this is what happens when you sleep through history class.
I think I paid attention pretty well in my senior seminar on the Korean war but if you want I can link you my final paper on it if you want to make sure.
Assuming you have the American high school understanding of the war where the evil north invaded the free south and the benevolent u.s. came to the rescue, I'd recommend you read Bruce Cummings book on the subject to give some insight into what really happened. If you want a more condensed version refer to the comment I gave for the other guy.