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NYT Opinion: Government Surveillance Keeps Us Safe (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 7 months ago by cypherpunks@lemmy.ml to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Oh, man, a pro authoritairan-level-surveillance article from the NYT.

I did NAZI that coming!

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Well, it's an opinion piece, and a guest writing it, so there's that.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That would only be a valid argument if the New York Times posted anything, from anybody that sent it to them for it to be posted.

Since that is not the case and the NYT is selective on what it choses to post as "opinion pieces" one can only conclude that the opinion piece that they chose to post is aligned with their line of thinking or at least does not add up to an effective argument against it.

Considering how the NYT specifically chose a known pro-Israeli who is not a journalist to write actual news articles about the Israeli attack of Gaza, it's extremelly hard to believe that when selecting which opinion pieces to publish in their newspaper they would refrain from trying to shape opinion.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This history of the opinion pieces is an interesting one. I just wanted to point those two facts out to anyone who may have missed that in the headline.

More info if you're interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/03/insider/opinion-op-ed-explainer.html

The Opinion section operates editorially independently from the rest of the newspaper. It is the section’s unique mission both to be the voice of The Times, and to challenge it. The Op-Ed pages were born, in part, because of the closing of New York’s top conservative newspaper, The New York Herald Tribune. They were created to be opposite the editorial pages — and not just physically.

“The purpose of the Op. Ed. page is neither to reinforce nor to counterbalance The Times’s own editorial position,” the introduction to the newly created opinion pages stated in 1970. “The objective is rather to afford greater opportunity for exploration of issues and presentation of new insights and new ideas by writers and thinkers who have no institutional connection with The Times and whose views will very frequently be completely divergent from our own.”

Just to highlight that last bit: The opinions are frequently chosen to be completely divergent from those held by the NYT staff.