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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Arguing that you're against helping people now because it doesn't go far enough is ridiculous. Help people now. Then continue helping people. Don't let perfect be the enemy of progress.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Those unrealistic idealists are so frustrating to argue with. Is this a great first step? YES! Can we do more? Also YES.

Take the win, and use that momentum to drive mode change. Trying to go from 0 to 100 in one step is just not realistic.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Take the win, and use that momentum to drive mode change.

There's a difference between a start and means testing tho...

Those same moderates like to use means testing to erode away support for more, and to get the people who don't make the cut to vote against it.

It's how moderates have been opposing universal healthcare for over 80 years.

Social Security was supposed to be a temporary compromise to help the neediest while the government worked out the wrinkles for universal healthcare that was for everyone.