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You know those sci-fi teleporters like in Star Trek where you disappear from one location then instantaneously reappear in another location? Do you trust that they are safe to use?

To fully understand my question, you need to understand the safety concerns regarding teleporters as explained in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQHBAdShgYI

spoilerI wouldn't, because the person that reappears aint me, its a fucking clone. Teleporters are murder machines. Star Trek is a silent massacre!

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[–] jsveiga@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it opens a spacetime tunnel and I cross it with all my original atoms, yes.

If it disintegrates me to 3d print a copy on the other side, no.

[–] PunchingBag@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 1 year ago

Stargate lore incorporates buffers holding your intermediate information, so it's the same than Star Trek, actually.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if there is a DHD on both sides. I don’t want some in-house built crap that ignores the failsafes that the original builders put in place

[–] Sheltac@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even then, you have pretty much no way of knowing if there’s an iris. So it’s all fun and games until SLAM, all your atoms gets squished into metal.

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Iris always seemed like a bad idea to me, what if the sg team lost their code thing and had to leave a planet in am emergency?

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That’s why they were military…KIA

[–] counselwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is star trek really clone rather than teleport? I haven't really watched much of it (only like 3 or 4 seasons).

[–] penguin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The general idea is a teleporter rips you apart and the atoms go to the destination to be reassembled in the previous state.

Whether or not it kills you is speculation. Arguably you're pretty dead if you're ripped apart atom by atom, and then a clone is assembled using the same parts.

But I don't think it's answerable if the recreated "you" is a clone or not until people can figure out what the mind even is.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Death is a state in which your biological functions cease. So no, it doesn't kill you, since you function properly after.

[–] penguin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it me functioning or is it a clone?

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does it matter, with the exact same memories?

[–] penguin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you'd be fine with a scientist creating a perfect clone of you, and then killing you, letting the clone take your place?

If it had the same memories.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 0 points 1 year ago

Yes. Since i would still be alive and have no memories of being killed. There's no distinguishion between a perfect clone and me. Sorry if you don't like a "you" only being memories.

[–] Slartibartfast@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also if there's any chance of a Fly situation happening I'm not going. Even if it's like a .00000001% chance then fuck that lol

[–] AGD4@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When just driving down a freeway, you have a much, much greater than 0.00000001% chance of suffering a worse outcome than the "fly situation" ;) .

Just sayin'.

I mean I'd probably rather be dead than Fly'd, so I dunno what the odds of something worse than that actually are lol.