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The point isn't to stop them from running. It's to stop them from talking to the internet, which is a lot simpler to achieve.
What I meant is that if we can't disable them without root we probably can't disable the network access either. I don't have the knowledge and time to test outgoing packets and stuff like that
Android has built in support for VPNs. If there was a way for the OS to leak traffic, that would be a massive security vulnerability that would have corporations dumping all android company phones within a week.
Non root ad blockers work by creating a vpn within the phone that all network activity goes through, which then doesn't allowed ad traffic.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/android-leaks-some-traffic-even-when-always-on-vpn-is-enabled/
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But also benign. This isn't a system app sending telemetry to google outside the VPN connection while it's active. It's the device checking whether a wifi access point provides internet to begin with, which if it does, the VPN connection will need to work, too.
The article is pointing out that the device doesn't strictly need to do this, and that it is being done in a way the gives the wifi AP metadata. The device could instead just assume there is an internet connection on the wifi, and as such an option to disable this behaviour is warranted.
It's fairly secure that it works, because it's basically setting up a VPN connection that effectively blocks every network traffic outside of the tunnel.
But if you wanna be 100% sure you need to invest either the time or root your phone.
It's okay to admit you don't understand stuff, you don't need to push conspiracy theories. None of us is omniscient....
I don't push it and it's not a theory. It's just my assumption that I don't have time to prove or destroy
Complete bullshit and utter speculation.