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Lemmy still has the same inherent drawbacks of Reddit, but now the mods have complete power with no admin oversight whatsoever.
The moderators of a community have no right to kill it. If people wish to leave for Lemmy, I welcome it. if the other sub died naturally, I'd migrate over here myself (the same way I migrated to Reddit gradually through dozens of forums dying naturally)
Forcefully trying to kill the sub serves no purpose other than to centralize piracy knowledge, benefit Reddits IPO by getting rid of a hated subreddit, and allow more mod censorship. Also, Lemmy isn't indexed by google, so you're fully reliant on the inbuilt search unlike Reddit. (which makes Lemmy less useful for finding specific content)
Lemmy is still in it's early stages. I'm a part of 1k+ communities on Reddit and fewer than half have a prescence on Lemmy or an equivalent.
Dearth of NSFW content. (I mean really, it's kinda sad. Even twitter has more regularly posted nsfw than Lemmy.)
UI and UX are garbage. I've had more 503s on Lemmy the past week than Reddit the past 8 years. The new reddit app looks & feels better than any available android app for Lemmy. (and honestly on desktop too)
Why 'move' ?
If the mods don't want to moderate the old sub, then pass the torch.
Considering piracy's focus on decentralization, y'all are oddly supportive of centralizing your content on a Lemmy instance hosted by one guy.
Which brings me to:
I'm sure this will get downvoted to hell, but these are a few reasons why the Reddit community shouldn't be killed.
Lemmy IS indexed by Google. Try searching for “site:lemmy.world” for instance. Also, if it you don’t like the way one admin is running their communities/server then you can move to another server/community and be completely out of the control of the first. Try doing that on Reddit.
Everything you say makes sense, but a pirate pledges loyalty to no man and always expects to jump ship when the time is upon them. Such is life on the high seas!
If the community as a whole feels that way, then discussion in the subreddit will naturally die off.
So why does it need to be done forcefully with a rule? Why force people to migrate? If Lemmy is so compelling, everyone will naturally switch over and it'll win out.
yesthe UI/UX is bad, but i am pationt enough to wait the few weeks until alternativev pop up that really should be nice. Like Sync. I know there is an 3 party website already but i did not try to really use it and forgot the url
Then go open up your own sub if you want a piracy sub on reddit that much. You think it's the name that makes a sub special? Could be /r/shitideas and if you made it focused on piracy it'd be a piracy sub. Acting like there's something stopping you from starting up your own. If anything it being /r/shitideas would make it easier to go under the radar and attract less attention from being shut down. Step up if you want it.
Most of what you said is valid and correct, but very little of it is a reason to stay on Reddit. Rather, those are deficiencies in Lemmy that should be addressed (and to be fair, most are in progress) in the code.
I do feel the need to point out that your first point is off the mark. In a way, due to federation, there are no admins. But in another, there are tons of them, with a team on each instance.
As for your second point, the very point of killing that sub (and similar actions on countless other subs) is to fight back against those singular admins of the first point. But at some point, these actions will stop organically. It could be on 7/1, it could be months from now. It could even be when there's a mutiny, or Reddit replaces the mods with scabs. But it will end, and a lot of people will already be gone permanently.