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[–] billgamesh@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. You don't get to revise away anything uncomfortable. USSR and China were socialist experiments that succeeded in raising quality of life and transforming rural countries into industrial, scientific states. If people wanna talk about what went wrong, great. Pretending they "don't count" just puppets capitalist apologia and doesn't help

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From a theoretical point, they don't count as communist. They entirely dropped the all-important aspect of giving power to the working class.

Both the USSR and China, in their self-described "communist" periods, were ruled with absolute power and directed by a head of state. The USSR collapsed, and modern China is about as communist as North Korea is democratic.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

i was a little worried there comrade but im glad to see u have a good unstanding of just how great the PRC is, after all what could be more the democratic than the glorious DPRK.