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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's extreme. The fact that you can't see that it is undermines your entire argument. You're not doing yourself any favors by saying that vegan cheese is as oppressed as gay people have been. No one's being dragged behind a truck because they presented vegan cheese as a dairy product. No one's shouting slurs at you.

You alienate people who might otherwise have agreed with you.

As an example, look at the other end of the spectrum using exactly the same, ridiculous logic. Selling vegan cheese is legal. Selling people was also once legal.

You really believe in veganism and that's great. I'm happy for you. But punch in your weight class my dude. Some people think vegan blue cheese is better, but it lost a competition for not technically being cheese. Some people think chili has beans, but since 1967 beans have been strictly forbidden from ICS cookoffs but the people's choice competitions strictly require them. There are reasonable parallels to be drawn there.

There is no reasonable parallel between vegan cheese in a cheese cookoff, and actual hatred of LGBTQ+ people

[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're straw manning their argument. They aren't comparing the oppression of LGBTQIA+ folk to the oppression of cheese. The comparison is to the oppression of animals - who most definitely are being dragged behind the truck.

You can, and probably would, make the argument that animals don't deserve the same level of moral consideration as LGBTQIA+ humans, but the vegan argument is that non-human animals experience pain and suffering and deserve the same right to life and non-exploitation for the same reason that any human (LGBTQIA+ or not) does.

[–] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

This, thank you.