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Yes it would have been ignoring the rule of law because Garland wasn't appointed AG until more than 3 months later on March 11, 2021. source
Ignoring the Garland part, everyone was still getting over the shock and sorting out the details of Jan 6th 24 hours after your proposed start. The democrats started the impeachment of Trump started on Jan 25 2021 a mere 18 days later. That wasn't fast enough for you? source
You see opportunities to do something, but ignoring the dire consequences of doing those things. Then accuse others of inaction when they don't do them? That's of you disingenuous, isn't it? Why is it we're 6 posts deep before you admit that you don't even know what do to yet claim others should?
I agree its the same problem from the Nixon-era, but here you are again saying we should have done something, yet don't acknowledge the horrible consequences of doing it. So brave.
The Bush/Cheney Iraq stuff is bad, but not Constitutional Crisis bad. Mixing the Nixon and Trump crises in with Bush dilutes the importance of addressing Trump. That doesn't help anybody.
You understand that you and I and everyone alive right now has enjoyed almost 50 years of some of the highest standard of living on the planet. What you casually toss around as what should be a solved problem would likely have shaken that to its knees and sent us and the world into a tailspin that would have taken many decades to recover from, if ever.
Your bravado undersells that drastic actions that would unfold from that. You get no credibility to me from simply yelling it must be different without being part of the change and accepting the consequences. It certainly looks like you are simply washing your hands of it and expecting others to come up with all the answers and pay the price. I'm sorry, but that's just not how the real adult world works.
Forgive me on the details, re: Garland. I have cancer and the meds make my memory and mind go a little wonky sometimes. I'm pretty sure you understood what I meant, despite the mistake.
Impeachment isn't the same as a criminal investigation, and Garland still waited two years until the ex-President had become so criminally belligerent. He could have started on day one, and he chose not to.
We simply don't agree on "the consequences of doing it." You think it's a lot more dangerous than I do, it's as simple as that. I don't think prosecuting criminals for crime is really that hard of an issue when the whole point of this damn system is for these folks to represent us and our interests. Sorry that we disagree on the far reaching consequences. "You get no credibility to me from simply yelling it must be different without being part of the change and accepting the consequences." Okay, we both see different consequences unfolding, so obviously I am accepting the consequences and you're being fucking obtuse. The fact that you view this as "Only I am smart enough to know the consequences" speaks loudly of how condescending you've been this whole time. You have also failed to detail these far reaching consequences that are so fucking dangerous.
Sorry I don't have a plan. I have cancer and meds that cost $18.3K a month without insurance. You want me to be in charge of the plan? I'm in my forties and have cancer in a country that's happy to let me die. I'm about to be a fucking statistic in "youth" cancer deaths. I've got my own fucking problems. I'm a voting citizen and I get to voice my opinion. I'm not required to hop and skip out of the fucking cancer ward to save the world.
"You understand that you and I and everyone alive right now has enjoyed almost 50 years of some of the highest standard of living on the planet." Yes I do understand that after WWII we were the only country that hadn't had our infrastructure bombed to living fuck-all and we were in a unique position to get a stranglehold on the world economy, and that included Reagan supporting coups in South America to get friendly dictators installed so we could exploit the living shit out of them for our gain. I don't exactly feel good about that history, and frankly, neither should you. It was a fluke on the worldwide stage and our shithole country is spiraling into stagnation because we never had a plan beyond exploiting the third world. We're losing that high standard of living right the fuck now, despite the Democrats "doing the right thing." Amazon is literally about to sue the NLRB out of existence! Literally fuck-none of that has anything to do with Presidential immunity other than proving we need to be able to prosecute Presidents for crimes like that. I don't care how great our quality of life has been if it's been at the expense of other countries and their democracies. America isn't the center of the fucking universe. The amount of times it has been abused is too god damned high.
All I hope is that if Trump wins, your defense of doing it "the right way" comes back to haunt you when the brownshirts come for us all. Having chosen the "lawful good" path won't save you once Trump is in charge.
First, I'm very sorry to hear about your cancer, and I hope your treatment ends soon with your cancer in remission. I'm crossing my fingers for you.
Second, you go fuck yourself. You're doing it again where you're doubling down on this being someone else's problem to solve. Sure you have a voice and an opinion, and instead of facing the truths of what you're proposing you're saying it someone else's responsibility to come up with a perfect solution and implement it. I'm confident you'll be there at the conclusion of said plan calling out how shitty it was because it didn't do everything. Yes, you have cancer, are you're trying to use that as a free pass to stand on a hill of moral superiority by pointing out a problem and calling everyone else assholes for not solving it to your liking? Those close to me that have (or have had) cancer told me when they found out they had cancer they didn't want to be pitied and treated differently. They wanted to be treated just like everyone else that didn't have cancer. I'm going to show you respect and assume you're the same.
If you want me to pull my punches and let your weak arguments stand unopposed because you have cancer, just let me know. I'll respect that choice of yours too.
I agree we are in different places on where the end result of this would be. The problem isn't so much convicting the criminal today, its what that conviction does to the office of the President forever into the future. I'm not saying this to say we shouldn't do something, but that it isn't about the orange guy today, its about what it means to everyone else after he's convicted.
Nope, not "only I". Apparently all of the leaders of our government for the last 50 years too.
In charge? No, a participant? Yes. No one is asking you to lead the team, but if you want to play the game you've at least got to be on the field, not just a spectator in the stands.
I'm not talking about post-WWII Truman era. I'm talking about Nixon and his crimes. Thats what we were talking about.
I don't feel good about that, but thats a different argument that doesn't have anything to do with Trump or Nixon.
And Starbucks tried to do something similar being anti-union, and got smacked down. We now have unions at Starbucks locations all over the place. If you look, you'll always find ugly battlefields. I'm not telling you to stop looking, but understand the battle isn't over, and it could result in a win for the good guys like when Starbucks lost against unions, like when Jim Johns lost against the FTC this week and unilaterally destroyed predatory companies from using Non-compete agreements. source
So you want the worst to happen if you lose an argument? How does that help anyone?
I'd ask what you see the alternative is to avoid that, but we've been over that. You only point out problems and not even any elements of solutions.