Then what is the job of the publisher? To perpetrate scams it seems, because seemingly the devs published the game just fine all by themselves to Steam. If they didn't do that right, the publisher suddenly has no responsibility to make sure that was distributed correctly? Whose job is it to ensure the product is published in line with their inevitable goals, we wonder.

so why would they list it for sale in those countries?

Because they botched the bait and switch. And now Valve is cleaning up Sony's mess. Too bad they couldn't clean up Sony's mess of leaked customer data. I guess they can't fix it but prevent the next one by making publishers agree up front that they can't require data from players, in order to publish a game, but I digress.

no one seems to want to accept personal responsibility

No one should have to expect to be subject to a bait and switch scam in the first place. Which is what this clearly is, because if they were truly up front, they would have required the account on day one and had the appropriate region filters in place, so consumers could never be in this position.

Stop blaming the victims of corporate greed and scams; people should be able to reasonably enjoy things they paid for without being molested and exploited. Personal responsibility my ass when there should be laws to prevent this kind of thing in the first place.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 7 months ago

A publisher in gaming bankrolls a lot of the costs and hurdles. Why do you think developers often use publishers? You think they just want to have a boss and give a cut of the profits away for nothing?

[+] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Steam and arrowhead both allowed the sale of the game in non-compatible markets.

Everyone is to blame in, it all depends on how you want to swing it.

I’m not defending any single entity, I literally blamed them all lmfao.

But of course someone is a shill when they go against your bias and narrative…. Give your head a fucking shake.

Sony ripped you off here, so did Steam and so did arrowhead. Arrowhead is kind of being the worst here throwing everyone else under the bus instead of owning up to their mistake and sever lack of communication though. They are trying a strong arm tactic now that they got caught with their own hand in the jar.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

Steam and arrowhead both allowed the sale of the game in non-compatible markets.

No. Sony handles the publishing on Steam. Sony set the countries allowed for sale -- neither Steam, which is only the platform, nor arrowhead, who did not publish the game, have any responsibility in the matter. You're taking away blame from Sony which is the single culprit for that mistake

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

against your bias and narrative

If being a regular person who just wants to enjoy the things they pay for in peace is bias, and being fed up with this crap is narrative, what does that make you?

Stop trying to normalize exploitation by greed, and stop normalizing the acceptance of it.

Just because Sony can manufacture a bait and switch with some boilerplate doesn't mean they should. Regular people should not be blamed for being exploited when purchasing in good faith. The developers made a game that works, clearly, and Steam delivered it, so they are culpable, but if Sony can stop their horseshit, and this all goes away, it is clear who really is to blame.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Was it actually for sale in countries that don't allow psn accounts, or did people spoof locations to buy the game from those countries? I've been trying to find this out the past two days and still haven't gotten confirmation that the game was or is for sale on steam in a place like Egypt. All I've seen is people saying it was for sale there, but it's all coming from assuming it is, because others also not from any of those countries have made the same claim.

So; can anyone from a region that doesn't support PSN confirm if they were able to buy HD2 with their correct region selected? I just genuinely want to know, because if so, I would think at least those individuals should be able to get a refund, even though they ignored all the warnings about the psn requirements.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

The game was allowed for sale worldwide, Sony changed the restrictions today on the steam store, delisting the game in 177 countries where it was previously available

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Steam article May answer that question

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 7 months ago

I'm not really sure that does answer the question, actually. I think that's a bit different of a question.