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    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Have you tried installing literally any debian based system recently? Works without a single command.

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    welp, I still need to add myself to the sudo group and sudoers file, and that's something I need a root shell for. (unless I always miss some options during setup to make my user automatically a sudoer)

    [–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    You did. If you leave your root password blank it'll automatically add the user account you create in the following step to sudo and disable the root account.

    If you want to have both a root account and a user account with sudo, you'll have to do that manually, but that's a pretty unusual setup.

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    oh wow, I did not know this

    but that’s a pretty unusual setup

    Nor this, but you are right if I think about it.

    [–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, general practice is to either elevate privelige by switching accounts, or by using sudo. Having both just increases your attack surface to no practical benefit (especially since you can technically still switch to a root account with "sudo - i" even if you're going the sudo route).

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I used mostly Windows systems primarily and I guess I just adapted that habit of having an Administrator account for when shit goes down, and my own user account that has admin rights.

    It's just convenient. I liked my Administrator account as clean as possible, and I do the same in Linux with root. There is its time and place where I need root.

    But you are right, I should change my habits. I'm not even sure how sudo and rights and environments and sessions and god knows what works exactly behind the scenes, so probably, maybe, there are technical differences too in the way I use these and the way how I should... I don't know.

    Anyway, thanks for the info.

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Fair enough. Although technically the system works without that. Just not for long maybe?

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

    I mean it's Debian, it's stable, it should work without ever updating your system :P

    (though one could always log in as root in a separate session, too...)

    [–] embed_me@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah but last time I checked I couldn't play videos without enabling non-free repos

    [–] brian@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    is that not just a checkbox when you install though?

    [–] embed_me@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

    It is a checkbox in ubuntu. I don't remember it being there for debian although I used it a few years ago so it might be a new change

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

    editing files in a root desktop session with a GUI editor does count as cheating in this case?

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 6 months ago

    Yeah no. Thats not the case for everyone. Debian itself also is a little more tricky than say pop!os.

    [–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Many other Arch based too, even if it against Arch's philosophy. Just click "yes" and "next" a bunch of times and you are ready.

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 6 months ago

    I think the purists need to accept that users are valid too. :) good that some distros seem to understand that.