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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying it would have been better for her if she was charged with crimes? She would be stuck with fines and probably jail time. You do realize SHE was breaking multiple laws by being there right? So yeah, it is a small measure of good because they looked the other way rather than filing charges.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They didn't look the other way. They kicked her out. And I don't blame them. But neither do I praise them or call them good.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so in your eyes it's the same as if they pressed charges? Which they absolutely could have done since she was stealing power from them for over a year and trespassing.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Not worse" is different from "better", how is this a difficult concept?

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago

Not going to jail and paying fines is better than going to jail and paying fines. What part are you struggling with?

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Think you're struggling with the definition of ignorance.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How about the definition of "cruelty"? The law itself is unjust. It's bananas to me that someone can be criminalized for seeking shelter in good faith. She wasn't destroying that area or stealing (except some electricity). She needed shelter. I learned in kindergarten that we need food, water, and shelter. Didn't you learn those as needs? If not, maybe you really are the ignorant one.

It's not "kind" to simply not enforce a cruel law. It's just not being as cruel as they could be. Just because they could've abused their power more and didn't, doesn't make them good. It just makes them less shit.

My work had people squatting under the awnings at at night. We let them as long as they didn't make a mess and left while we were open. I gave them coffee sometimes. They could have just ignored the situation or told her she couldn't have the extension cord. Like genuinely, as a real human to human interaction, that's what they should've done.

If she'd been a squirrel or some pigeons, they would've probably left her alone. Because we can understand that animals need shelter.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did you know there are programs and help for people like her? A place where she can stay safely. A place where she's not ON A ROOF LIVING IN A SIGN which is certainly unsafe and if she were to get hurt, guess who's on the hook for that? Yeah, the business. Cruel would be putting her ass in jail and fining her.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People always say "there's a program," but actually kook in her city for programs - what are they? Are they shelters? Or real housing? We usually DON'T have those programs, which is why people end up living behind signs

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Taking about 4.6 seconds, a search resulted in multiple homeless shelters in her city.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay, take another 5 second search and look into why homeless women (and men) do not like staying in showers. Look up the rates of rape and sexual assault in shelters. Shelters are not safe alternatives. Her sign was much safer.