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Donald Trump's former White House aide is under fire after a video showed him claiming to distribute fake money to homeless people so that they will be arrested when they spend it.

Johnny McEntee, formerly the White House Presidential Personnel Office under the former president, posted a video on TikTok in which he discusses the purported scheme to "clean up the community."

"So I always keep this fake Hollywood money in my car, so when a homeless person asks for money, and I give them like a $5 bill, I feel good about myself, they feel good," said McEntee, also a senior advisor to Project 2025. "And then when they go to use it, they get arrested, so I'm actually helping to clean up the community and get them off the street."

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[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Shows how stupid this guy is. Obviously it isn't illegal for someone to own "Hollywood money" or else he wouldn't admit to owning it himself. If a homeless person gives it to a store and they accept it, that's on them.

It clearly states on the bills "For Motion Picture use Only", doesn't feel right, and isn't the right size.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 52 points 6 months ago

If a homeless man accepts a Hollywood bill, believes it genuine, and tries to spend it - they're not at fault for most of the currency related laws. Simply handing a homeless person a fake bill with the intent that they believe it is genuine is the super illegal thing. There's a large mens rhea component to most crimes but especially around fraud... the basis of most fraud cases is inequal information: you purposefully don't disclose a significant quality of the goods being transferred.

I hope this shitheel learns thoroughly that the secret service are really fucking serious about their non-bodyguard duty.

(Also, shout out to Warehouse 13 for being a fucking hilarious premise right in this area)

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The person handing them out, passing the fake bills off as real money to the homeless(even as a donation) is the illegal thing. Spending a counterfeit bill without having known it was fake is not illegal in the US afaik, but you can still be arrested for it because the police don't have to believe that you didn't know.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

George Floyd was executed by police for using a suspected counterfeit bill.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

That's ridiculous. He was executed for being black. The counterfeit bill was just the excuse.

[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean it isn't counterfeit. Counterfeit is making a bill yourself that looks exactly like an actual bill. These specifically state they aren't real.

I didn't know about giving it out as a donation though.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

The quality of the item is only a consideration if its unreasonable for a regular person to mistake it for real (a good example is bills printed in red). If someone could mistake it for genuine and you're falsely presenting it as genuine - then you've got fraud.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

Counterfeit is something that looks close enough that someone could believe it's something it isn't.

Hollywood money has to look real at a distance, the fact it says "not legal tender" in small print doesn't make it not possible to be used as a counterfeit. If it's crumpled or folded up, the obvious tells that it's fake might be hidden. A person with poor eyesight or numb fingers can't sense it well. When mixed in a pile of change and 1 dollar bills it can be missed.

Someone intentionally donating movie money to the homeless is using those bills as counterfeit bills. And that person then attempting to buy something with it is passing counterfeit currency, knowingly or not.

[–] Audacious@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

Hollywood money is highly regulated, and secret service is very strict about it. Adam Savage recently made a YouTube vid about movie money, which has stories about the secret service at the beginning of the video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=drLzVcgnBfI

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

It's absolutely not legal. But you'd need a lawyer, and the homeless don't have a lawyer. The wealthy and well to do love this trick... Punching down is kind of their thing.