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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Steam: Here's a sale on a bunch of catered stuff

Epic Games: Here's a premium game and you cannot purchase it on any other platform because we paid the the dev to take the money and run.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Steam: here’s a platform. We know some corpos won’t release games without DRM, so here’s our in-house solution that’s non-intrusive, but if you don’t want to put DRM in your game, we won’t force you. Want to include a backup installer? Cool. No worries. Oh you don’t have solid internet? That’s cool, if you get the games installed somehow, you can use offline mode indefinitely with no issues, sorry it took us so long to work out the bugs.

Epic: YOU MUST YSE OUR SHITTY DRM FOR ANY GAME RELEASED ON OUR PLATFORM, AND YOU MUST BE ONLINE AT ALL TIMES OR YOU CANNOT PLAY THE GAMES YOU PURCHASED.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] passepartout@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

Lutris / Heroic: got your back bro

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Good thing Linux supports Valve's Proton compatibility layer...

[–] Wilker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

Itch.io is also underappreciated in this sense too

[–] kresten@feddit.dk 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, you can't play Epic-games while offline?

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 15 points 1 year ago

Honestly, you might be able to these days. I haven’t interacted with the Epic app in years though, and you couldn’t last I tried.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Epic_Games_Store

Maybe you should keep up to date a bit instead of making an opinion years ago and not checking what's been happening since.

Also, offline play has been available for a long time too.

[–] CileTheSane@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, everytime I decide I'm done with a company I make a point of keeping up on what they're doing...

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you intent to make general statements about them, it would be good to do so, yes. Else you could look silly if your statement is outdated.

[–] CileTheSane@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If what you said was true at the time you don't look silly at all, because people don't follow companies they decide they are done with.

If it's outdated the reasonable response is simply informing people it's out dated. Expecting them to keep up with a latest news of a company they don't like makes you look silly.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If what you said was true at the time you don’t look silly at all, because people don’t follow companies they decide they are done with.

That's only true if you actually state it as such. It's really easy to clarify such a statement with "Back when I last checked ..." or "Years ago it was ..."

[–] CileTheSane@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's like saying "in my opinion": it's unnecessary. Of course it's your opinion or you wouldn't have said it, and of course that was true last you checked or you wouldn't claim that was the case.

If someone's information is out of date it is appropriate to correct them. It is absurd to expect people to do research before posting anything about anything to make sure it is "up to date".

For example: did you double check that you can in fact still play games off-line using Epic before posting? Or did you just assume it was true based on "last you checked"?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, don't talk about them if you don't because you don't know what you're talking about. You're like an old man saying that a new computer sucks because it doesn't have a Voodoo card inside.

[–] CileTheSane@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

"I don't purchase from comapny X ever since they did Y" is a perfectly reasonable thing to say when people are talking about company X. The reasonable response to someone saying that is simply "They don't do Y anymore, they haven't done that since [date]", not "HOW DARE YOU SHARE THE REASON YOU STOPPED USING COMPANY X IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE FOR THE PAST COUPLE YEARS!"

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but if you don’t want to put DRM in your game, we won’t force you.

Have you used Steam in, well, ever? It's literally impossible to release a Steam game without DRM and always has been.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every single one of those requires a connection to your Steam account to install. On GOG I can download the installers for my games and then use them whereever and whenever I want. That's impossible with Steam.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago

Many of those allow you to copy the files freely and move them between computers, even to computers that don’t have Steam. Hell, I played Half-Life on my Linux handheld yesterday, and I didn’t install it through steam. Just copied the files onto the SD card, set up a script to bind the controls, and launched the game.

Now, I’ll concede you must initially sign in to get access to the files, just as you must sign in to download installers on gog.

I use both often though. I play a lot on the aforementioned Linux handheld, and you can port pretty much any DRM-free game to it. Most surprisingly work better using the Steam version than they do the GoG version, though that is likely to be down to the handheld and not anything the stores are doing.

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Steam: here's the launcher. It opens in a few minutes

Epic: You better go get yourself a coffee with that money you saved on the free game cause we're gonna be here a while

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh so exactly what Steam did to implant itself and what gamers were complaining about because it would "kill publishers and physical copies" way back when?

[–] HELM108@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only game I could find that was arguably a third party exclusive for steam was Darwinia in 2005, and they weren't paid by Valve to do so, which pretty much scuttles the comparison.

If you meant first party exclusivity then sure Valve does that with their own games, as does Epic and others. First party exclusivity isn't the problem here though, it's the third party kind instead.