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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

So what’s your red line? If genocide isn’t enough to get you to turn your back on the democrats at the very least unless they drop Biden from the ticket, how far is too far? How bad can it get before you decide it’s more important to support a third party you actually believe in?

Mine wasn’t even the genocide.

[-] capital@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

I’m not sure what about the logic of “we’re getting one of these two” isn’t getting through.

  1. One of these two are going to be elected
  2. One is clearly better than the other
  3. Voting for the better of the two has a chance to mitigate damage and has already proven to be a better choice once before

As soon as #2 stops being true I’ll have to reevaluate.

I will celebrate #1 being false if I ever live to see first past the post die in this country but I’m not holding my breath.

I get over what I wish would happen and deal with facts.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Okay, but like I asked, when do you turn your back on that and work toward something else? When do you say to yourself “it doesn’t matter which of these two are better by whatever metric, I won’t stand by and assent to either of them”?

Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

Even if you took a purely utilitarian approach, at some point both major parties are so far beyond what you consider acceptable that the effect of a third party vote cast with full knowledge that party won’t win is of greater utility than some poison compromise.

[-] lapis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

many liberals do not have a cutoff point here. if Democrats were having people executed in the streets, they would argue that more people would be executed in the streets under Republicans, so leftists who don’t vote Democrat are morally bankrupt and effectively on the side of the Republicans.

oh, wait, that’s literally their argument for this election, it’s just that said streets and people happen to not be the good ol’ US of A.

[-] capital@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Are you referring to the wholly justified war in which our allies regularly warn citizens with loudspeakers, dropped flyers, and phone calls where they’re headed next so civilians can evacuate?

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago
[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Due to this well thought out reply I have reconsidered my position /s

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

do you really need five paragraphs and a topic sentence to not support the IDF?

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