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[–] flork@lemy.lol -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

In other words, I can successfully install things like a windows user, I just have to go the extra step to open the file’s properties and make it executable with the GUI first.

Some programs can be installed this way, but it's extremely far from universal.

Config files can be edited in the GUI text editor

Not without opening them as root, which in every distro I know of, requires the terminal.

To test my claim and prove your third point, this link is the repository for a samba GUI

The install directions for that program involve the terminal.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

In mint I can right click in a folder and reopen the folder with elevated privileges. That's my primary, I assumed it was standard but if it's not common I guess it's a cinnamon thing. If so, maybe cinnamon is the desktop of choice for avoiding the terminal.

I didn't do my full diligence to the samba GUI thing, apparently. That's a good catch.

To salvage my argument, yumex has a GUI and extends yum, so while the instructions expect the terminal, I think it'll be optional.

I still recommend it to nobody, but someone who set out to avoid the terminal doesn't have to fail.

yumex, pip-gui, and aptitude give yum, pip, and apt GUI's, respectively, so most anything that expected the terminal should be doable without it. All it costs is a bunch of effort troubleshooting GUI things or finding out one doesn't display error messages and logs them weirdly or whatever.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you can configure "open as root" in some file managers. Also you can configure a gksudo (or similar) setup.

Really though, that makes me think. The file manager should detect you're opening something you don't have write access to and ask if you want to authenticate as root to open it.

[–] flork@lemy.lol -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are apps that can do it, but require the terminal to install.

Also in every distro I've tried, config files will open read-only, not with the authentication pop-up.

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

Just double clicking on /etc/fstab opens it in the editor, I can write whatever I want and when I want to save it asks for authentication.

Anyways, what exactly do you think is the average user that can and should play around in system config files and can't use the terminal at the same time?