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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (22 children)

That's kind of how 'self rule' works. You're supposed to pay attention to politics.

People not voting is how we got in this mess in the first place.

Why do you think the GOP's final defense is always "both sides do it?"

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (21 children)

TIL self rule is when you can't criticize the government

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (20 children)

TIL telling people to get involved in politics and to go out and vote is exactly the same as telling them to not criticize the government.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People won't do those things unless they realize that Democratic neoliberal orthodoxy is also the enemy.

Criticizing Biden with the goal of awakening the people should be encouraged

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So, in a few words, tell me how you intend to reshape the entire political landscape of the United States and usurp both major Parties.

I've had folks tell me since high school that the Revolution was just around the corner, and the masses would rise and rebuild.

What's so special about your plan?

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

how you intend to reshape the entire political landscape of the United States

Unions and democratic socialism. Aka, the Sanders methodology - and, aka, the way we got the New Deal

The alternative is either doing nothing and allowing conditions to continue to deteriorate, or supporting an armed revolution that will be instantly massacred by the most powerful military in human history. Neither are plausible options in the face of oligarchy

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're hilarious. They got the New Deal by electing FDR. Without politicians in the White House and Congress, none of it would have happened.

You speak against voting, and then mention an elected official [Sanders] and a government policy [the New Deal]

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You seem to be unfamiliar with the mass labor movements and socialist movements that were present in the late 20s and 30s. FDR and his social democrats were the compromise candidates.

You speak against voting

Actually I didn't. Because, as I've now said for the 3rd time in this thread, I've voted for dems in every election I've ever been eligible to vote in.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Actually I didn’t. Because, as I’ve now said for the 3rd time in this thread, I’ve voted for dems in every election I’ve ever been eligible to vote in.

I don't who you sent those messages to, but it wasn't me.

If you can't keep your arguments straight, it's time to stop playing keyboard warrior. Go out and touch the grass.

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