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Judge Orders Alec Baldwin to Face Trial for ‘Rust’ Shooting
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Trials are the thing we do that allow juries/judges to come to those conclusions.
Typically, there needs to be enough evidence for an indictment to stand trial. So far, there hasn’t been publicly released enough evidence to show that he was in anyway at fault.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/alec-baldwin-indicted-grand-jury-involuntary-manslaughter/story?id=104954728
Well he already has been indicted by a grand jury. And the standard for them is probable cause, which is a very low bar. Just that he held a gun when it went off and struck someone should meet that for manslaughter.
I know, but I think that indictment should have been thrown out after the firearms coordinator was convicted. This seems heavy-handed and unfair.
Well that's not the argument you were making. He's regrettably met the minimum standards for it to go to a proper court, though.
I don't think it's heavy-handed to think an incident can have multiple parties responsible. It's very possibly that. I think a jury should determine if Baldwin legally should've done better, using evidence and witness testimony about what would normally happen.
Personally I think it's much more the armorer's fault. I agree with you. But I wasn't there, I don't know that we have all the information, or even that the information I've learned is completely accurate. A trial is the way to get all the information and certify it as true under penalty of perjury. Then the people who have been given every fact from both sides can make that determination.
it kinda is, although it would be fair to say i was being circumspect.
i agree that multiple parties can be responsible for a thing, but i really feel these questions should have been adequately answered (and have) during the investigations. unless there's a pile of evidence that hasn't been made public (which is possible, i admit), then this all seems like so much theater.
you raise good points though, and i realize that we're debating opinions here, not strictly the facts, so i'm not really trying to convince you of anything-- just to express my position.