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Republicans enraged by Biden’s efforts to keep gas prices lower
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I actually just want permanently higher gas prices like in Europe to facilitate the move to EVs. The US needs to break the addiction to oil.
A lot of people will be even poorer increasing the price of gas in Europe, most working class people cant switch to an EV just because,my family (myself included, but now i live in a big city where i dont need a car anymore) purchase usually 15+ year old cars, and there is no decent public transportation in that zone. I know you just want easy upvotes saying stupid things like that, but really, viewpoints like that are harmful towards the working class, if you want to facilitate the move towards EVs what you need is cheaper EVs, and tbh, fuck that bullshit and instead push toward better public transportation in rural areas instead of keeping the push in personal vehicles that are as wasteful.
Ideally, you tax the hell out of fossil fuels then redistribute it to the poor. The rich and middle class cut their usage and/or switch to EVs and the poor can get by while viable alternatives to driving are implemented and EV prices come down.
News flash: The working class in most of Europe is doing much better than the working class in the US. And that's with much higher gas prices and higher taxes.
They also drive more EVs and have a heck of a lot higher quality public transportation.
Hm so if the median working class as a whole in the EU is doing better than the working class of the USA its okay the fuck the working class of the rural zones in spain which as i said lack public transportation or access to expensive EVs? Lmao.
Also EV structures in the cities are not good because most people live in places with no garages or driveways. Better public transportation is the way.
The US needs better public transit everywhere, not just EVS.
Definitely agree. But there are a lot people in the US who have been conditioned to whine about "communist public transportation" every time it's brought up, so it never really happens. EVs are a good middle ground to get many of these people onboard with more environmentally friendly transportation.
That is an inverse progressive tax. The lower income you are, the higher % of your income you pay.
It's essentially a tax on the poor trying to subsidize renewables. If the US had viable alternatives, maybe I'd support this. I don't think the poor need more taxes right now, though.
The word you're looking for is regressive
You're right
If you return the tax to everyone as a dividend, then it becomes progressive, while still encouraging less polluting options
What other countries do is build viable public transportation to counter.
How much will climate change cost the poor?
Trust me marginally reducing the gasoline burned by the working class commuting to work will not make a difference. It's political theater masquerading as activism.
Go after the largest items. Build solar, wind farms, nuclear power. Once we have 90% of the power in this country being generated without carbon emissions then maybe we can talk about the pennies worth from gasoline.
Because right now 40% is natural gas and 20% is coal. Think of all the A/C units in the whole country, all of the Google data servers beeping and whirring, and every single Tesla supercharger station and behind them is a giant plume of black smoke sinking up to the atmosphere.
That comes after the election.