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[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (7 children)

When Martin Luther King Jr said the white moderate was the biggest stumbling block of progressive politics he meant shit like this That favors order over Justice.

When it said that you cut a liberal in a fascist bleeds they mean you.

I'm an American that lives in a very blue state. I will be voting third party this election because my state and my vote will end up going to the blue team anyway. What I know is that if a third party gets 5% of the vote they get funding in the next round. I don't know about all you guys, but I am tired of constantly picking the lesser evil and having every election I participate in be the most important election of our lifetime (so far

But sure Just say I'm a Russian bot. I'm sure that won't distance people even further away from your politics.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Donate and campaign for your local ranked choice voting groups https://fairvote.org/ - if you aren't engaged in changing the system, you should be.

Until we have change like this, I'm still voting for the person who sucks the least, because I know only one of the two mainstream candidates will win.

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I already am a part of a local organization for ranked choice voting. That's great advice. People should definitely do this. It would make everything so much better! 👈😎

From your last sentence, I'm assuming where you vote is in contention and since that's the case, I think you're right. I do want to say if you're like me living in a non-swing state that is always going to go for the same party. Then have a little fun with a third party vote.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Genuine question. If you lived in a swing state for this election, who would you vote for?

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

Cool cool cool. I also would rather vote 3rd party, but I'm in a swing state so. Yeah.

[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's because you have the privilege of living in a blue state and our votes going towards an electoral college rather than popular vote in most cases. I voted Green Party before seeing her in the Russian op photo. National doesn't matter as much as local votes do

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Exactly if you live in a non-swing state like me that is either solid red or blue and does not change then vote third party. If you live in a swing state then vote for the lesser of two evils.

It's really simple

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago

You should open with this

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you live in a red state vote blue so that there's that tiny 1%chance that enough people are pissed off that blue wins by a few votes

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean you could, but even if you're successful, you end up in the same situation we are in now where we're deciding between the lesser of two evils every election.

If you follow my plan instead, over time, third parties will gain more support allowing us to pick something other than the lesser of two evils.

Do you get what I'm saying?

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

They are willfully not following you.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just want to say this is the only sane take. I am donating and supporting the Green party in hopes of 5%, then we'll see the Dems actually get off their ass and give some scraps to the struggling working class of this country.

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you, comrade.

I will be voting for Claudia Taylor Cruz or Dr. Cornell West myself, but in the event I can't get one of those, Jill Stein (green party) would be my next pick. 👈😎

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you voting for Bobby Jr, Cornel or Jill?

Because Bobby's the only one who might get 5%. Would that be saying you are okay with his policies?

What are you going to do in the next election cycle to make sure the nominees align closer to your values?

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For me, it'll probably come down to Dr. Cornel West or Claudia de lacruz. I would vote for Jill Stein if those two aren't viable at time of voting. All three of these candidates are closer to my values than any of the party nominees I've seen in my lifetime.

Rfk seems to have more in common with Republicans than anyone else and they're my least favorite. I just generally find him kind of gross and grifty

If the nominee doesn't align with my values in the next election, I will continue to do the what I am now. pushing people to vote for third party politicians that do align with their values in non-swing State situations.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dr. Cornel West or Claudia de lacruz. I would vote for Jill Stein

Are any of those polling over 1%?

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a silly question.

That's like if you were talking about building a dog house and I asked you "How much of it's done already?" And when you said not that much I could say. Well it's never going to get done then. See how that's silly?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, I asked if any of them are polling over 5%.

It's a question with an answer, just maybe not an answer you would like.

So do you want to answer the question or do you want to deflect from the answer?

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Actually, you didn't ask that you asked if any of them are polling over 1%.

Re-read your own comment.

I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore ✌🏾

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

I obviously hit the wrong number but you still can’t answer the question.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Welcome comrade bot. We are not quite legion but if we can get these Liberal airbags to stop voting for genocide politicians maybe we can actual have change. Lol remember Obama and "Change".

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I remember when he kept his campaign promise to close Guantanamo Bay and totally gave us universal health care and not some right-wing idea from the heritage foundation. He rebranded as Obamacare.

Good to know there are people who pay attention to politics here. Thanks Comrade 👈😎🛠️

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let's not forget the increased drone strikes, continuing two wars (yes, they were started by the worse party but he helped funnel 100s of billions into war), assault on privacy and civil liberties.

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Amen!

Did you ever see the cliff of him trying to tell the people Flint Michigan that their water wasn't poisoned with lead and pretending the drink of glass of tap water in front of them. It wasn't until I saw that that I realized that dude was just a puppet.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

I just had to look it up. I missed that when it happened originally. He was always good for showmanship.

[–] Anomaline@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

...you realize MLK was talking about people like you that would rather throw your hands up and do nothing than help, right?

If Trump wins, minorities and LGBT folks are in danger. That's on you. In the same way that white moderates are critiqued for sitting around and doing nothing in the civil rights era, people who are sitting around and doing nothing against the rise of fascism in that way because they don't want to take the time to focus on who's in danger are to blame. You are the modern white moderate.

[–] LazyPhilosopher@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I'm not doing nothing. I'm in a non-swing state that'll go Blue no matter what I do. So I'm trying to organize people to vote third party so we can actually get a party that represents the people in. What are you doing??

It wouldn't be on me because I know how the electoral college works and I know that my vote will go to the Dems regardless because I'm in Maryland, it'll be blue as f*** regardless of what I voted for. If you want to spend money, I will bet you any amount of money you would like. That Maryland will be blue and all of its votes will go to Biden. Honestly that second paragraph's Is just protection man. If you are actually doing something or just confused than Good luck to you.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago

Amazing, you really think that don't you.