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[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Is it possible that someone is conducting some operation and doesn’t want it to be randomly documented?

Some state maybe? Eh I just have a hard time thinking of motives for this attack

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really doubt ddos is affecting whatever crawling internet archive does, just blocking the public from viewing the website.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That would depend on the ability of the sysadmins yes?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If this party is benefiting from a temporary outage of the IA, then that means their exposure window is temporary. That makes me think they’re doing something where the evidence will appear on some website temporarily, but not permanently. Don’t know what that might be, but that would be the profile of a thing which would benefit from DDoSing the IA.

The alternative is they’re trying to kill IA permanently. Enough time of its having zero utility to the world will eventually kill it. Could take years though.

Could be a rogue AI. It is a strange thing to see.

But generally speaking, I don’t feel confused when I see beautiful things attacked. I’ve seen a lot of things get attacked because they’re beautiful and useful, and it doesn’t surprise me any more.

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There is no way a DDoS on the website in affecting the crawler. Also, running a DDoS attack of this size costs a lot of money (if you rent the network, if you own it it costs money as lost sales). No one is giving AI control over a DDoS network to just fuck around.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The way it breaks utility is in the inability to read from the service. If that goes away for long enough, the Archive will die.

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

It would be crazy expensive to run an attack of this size for years.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sure but usually those who attack pretty things for no reason are morons barely able to articulate themselves let alone coordinate a massive DDoS.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Wrong. Intelligent, competent people attack beautiful things.

There is highly organized evil in the world. People who aren’t just trying to win. They’re trying to make people lose.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago

Capitalists don't like libraries because it means open access to resources which reduces the market size.

[–] spikespaz@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I had the save thought and the same wish-wash conclusion.