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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 108 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (54 children)

Stop thinking that you vote "for" someone in a FPTP system. You don't. You vote against the guy you don't like.

It sucks, and I hate it, but don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise. We're playing a badly-designed game with a shitty controller and we're only allowed to press a button once a year at best.

Think Twitch Plays Pokemon, but with a lot more trolls and no moderation. There will be a constant stream of people voting to do something stupid and destructive, so you spend all of your time voting against them.

Oh, and their votes count for more, so they can win even if there's fewer of them. All we can ever hope to do is try to stop them and hope they don't fuck everything up and give themselves even more power before the next time we're allowed to pick a move.

Yay America. Greatest democracy in the world right there.

[–] overeager@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

i think it's the opposite. in FPTP system the largest minority (of voters) wins. if you vote against one candidate, it will (probably) create/be another minority. to make sure the candidate loses, the largest minority have to agree for another candidate, just voting any other candidate won't do. related cgp grey's video - https://yewtu.be/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo.

edited to clarify. lets assume the election results as:

  • candidate A - 20%
  • candidate B - 35%
  • candidate C - 15%
  • candidate D - 25%
  • candidate E - 05%

candidate B won with only 35% voting for it while 65% voted against candidate B. clealy the majority of people voted against candidate B, but that doesn't matter as in FPTP, not majority but largest minority (35% that voted for candidate B) wins.

thus, i think you vote for not against in FPTP voting system.

[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

With no offense intended, I feel this could be worded a little better. It could also just be my tired brain, though.

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