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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by MrMakabar@slrpnk.net to c/degrowth@slrpnk.net

This is just insane. Not only are cars themself mostly unnecessary, if the right infrastructure is provided, but SUVs also use more resources to run and be produced then small cars, without any advantage over them. So an obvious waste, which could easily be cut to reduce emissions.

Source IEA: https://www.iea.org/commentaries/suvs-are-setting-new-sales-records-each-year-and-so-are-their-emissions

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[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 4 points 3 months ago

I would argue an SUV sucks even for that purpose. And SUV has less cargo space than even a minivan, and is typically less fuel efficient. In general, the majority of SUVs fail to live up to the Sport or Utility functions of their name. They're just a grossly inefficient oversized sedan.

As an example, I just moved someone out of a dorm yesterday and ended up having to haul a sizeable portion of my daughter's roommate's belongings in my van on top of my daughter's stuff because her roommate's SUV couldn't do the job. And my daughter has more stuff. And from the conversation we had, my van gets 5mpg more than her Ford Edge.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

I don't disagree with you there, but my intention wasn't to compare SUVs/CUVs to other cargo carrying vehicles so much as to point out that sedans and coupes are not nearly as well suited to hauling gear/equipment/boxes.

I am curious which minivan you have, I'm considering getting back into my moonlighting gig and having options for a more fuel efficient vehicle would be good to keep in mind.

[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago

Dodge Grand Caravan. Stow and Go is a life saver. Fuel economy is decent if you keep up with maintenance.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah that looks like a really killer feature. would significantly help with the pelican case and (future) roadcases. I have a similar feature in my nissan rogue, but the "stowing" of the seats feels a little hinky.

[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago

Mine stow completely flat, the anchor points for the seats are in recesses so they are flush with the floor. I've got pretty much the same storage space in my van as I had in my old Ranger with the truck cap on. Maybe a few inches less vertical space, but no fender humps.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Nice alright, yeah with mine, the seats will fold and you have these moving platforms that you can raise to match the seat back level but you can't put much if any weight on the platform. It's a cool idea but wasn't particularly well designed.

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