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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think at the point where you have food on the table. Without haver, you wouldn't have food on your table and you'd die from hunger

Nobody is claiming it's perfect, nobody is claiming things cannot or should not be improved.

The point is that these systems are there because like it or not, they work. Haber works, you are alive, ain't you? Now from here on we must improve.

Rotate crops more often, cut the stranglehold from agriculture conglomerates, lower the world population by lowering birth rates, be super 8+ billion and rising is just too much for this world to handle... Things like that.

Either way, tonight you can eat, maybe be at least a little grateful for that?

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Haber will obviously continue to be used and work but as long as there's a fossil fuel price to make it happen expect more extreme storms, fires, droughts, floods, ocean acidification, and possibly methane clathrate release triggering a runaway greenhouse effect like during the Paleocene-Eocene thermal maximum.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

I know. Same for cars, which cause up to 25% of all CO2 exhaust, much easier to curb that. We can do with much less cars, food would be harder.