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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm old enough to remember thinking how crazy it was that GW was somehow worse than Reagan...

Then trump showed up.

It seems like a forgone conclusion whoever is next will be worse. And I don't know why everyone else keeps acting like the issue with modern republicans is trump. trump is the symptom, it might be the symptom that kills us, but it's still a symptom.

So if you think trumps's VP will be one the shittiest people, just wait to see whoever runs as a Republican next.

It's been decades, we need to recognize this is a long term problem, and our solution needs to reflect that.

Constantly moving right, just drives the republicans further right to differentiate.

If Dems embraced progress, Republicans would run someone more moderate in an attempt to steal moderate voters. I don't think we'd lose as much as we do now, but even if we did the worst would be someone closer to Biden than trump. And with wins meaning something again, participation goes up. Which is why Dems would win more.

Essentially, never think republicans have reached rock bottom, you'll be constantly surprised. They can always go lower...

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I 100% agree and have observed that myself. Whenever it’s like “oh thank god Hastert is gone” or “phew, finally rid of Boehner” they manage to find someone even worse.

Also, good point that Trump gets too much credit. He didn’t create this bizarre Republican psyche - he’s simply a perfect embodiment of their behavior.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

The disease is the media, owned by the rich with an agenda who have no oversight

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We need to give McCain credit for refusing to be that guy. You can tell that, with Palin as a running mate, he gave in to some of the crazy demands, but in the end he was a decent person and would correct people saying Obama was a Muslim, which likely cost him in the campaign.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

McCain has an odd place in history though.

Probably the last republican candidate that was a decent person. But him running led to "moderate Dems" using it as an excuse to move just as far right as he was.

Which just made republicans move further right

It harderly took any time till Dems were acting like McCain.

And they already show zero interest in ever going back to what the Dem party was just a few decades ago.