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[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Stop recommending arch and arch based distros to newbies. They break way too often for people who have never used Linux before.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A new linux user will break their system. Thats part of the learning process. The queation is will they have the resources needed to fix it or will they be forced to reinstall.

These are the reasons i would sugest anyone to use an arch based distro like endevoros.

  1. They only break if you dont update or you do something dumb
  2. If the os breaks, or you need help with something, you have the best help resource avalible, the arch wiki. Along with a very large and often knoledgeable comunity. If you need help with ubuntu or a derivative distro, you often must serach the forum which have a lot of incorrect or outdated information.
  3. Its easy to find packages on the avalible repos including the aur. No searching for ppas to install the packages you need to actaully switch off of windows.

The most imporant thing a new linux user should know about, is how many options they have with linux. This is linux's greatest strength and it is not a one size fits all solution. Arch and its derivatives are great examples of this.

Also, i recomend new users use a multiboot with multiple distros and testing for themselfs.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
  1. They only break if you dont update or you do something dumb

Stop capping. I used to use Arch, it's not nearly as stable as you are suggesting.

  1. Its easy to find packages on the avalible repos including the aur. No searching for ppas to install the packages you need to actaully switch off of windows.

If you really want applications then use NixOS, not arch. That way you aren't dealing with the AUR, and Nix OS actually has more packages than the AUR.

Recommending NixOS to new users would be dumb though. Just like recommending arch is dumb. The install process alone would put lots of people off Linux.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've not had an issue with arch yet besies once like 4 years ago when I rebooted during a Nvidia driver update which was my own fault.

The goal is to introduce new Linux users both to the possible options and to proper documentation so that they can learn and help themselves.

Honestly, I wish I had started on arch instead of Ubuntu.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

The goal is to introduce new Linux users both to the possible options and to proper documentation so that they can learn and help themselves.

Honestly, I wish I had started on arch instead of Ubuntu.

Okay you are not a normal user or person. There isn't anything wrong with that. Giving people advice based on your own experience isn't going to work for you, because most people aren't that technically inclined and don't think about going for the harder option first.