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WTF Joe
(lemmy.world)
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That's bullshit, you Russian troll
It's from CNN. Is CNN Russian now?
Okay, so this is an example of why I think you're some sort of fake leftist. You've said this exact thing to me earlier and I didn't really dwell on it all that much -- but it is very bizarre for a supposedly far-left person to hold up CNN as a trusted source. Almost everyone on the left in the US regards CNN as corporate garbage.
The time before, you actually were arguing with me when I was criticizing a CNN article I think, something like you don't know how much more liberal it can get than CNN and you don't see why I would question it, which I interpreted as one of those accidental big slip-ups where the mask comes off a little bit. Maybe I am wrong in that, of course. Surely there are people on the left who for whatever reason trust CNN. But I think the ones of them that are also rabidly anti-establishment-Democrat are probably a lot more rare than you realize. It struck me as much more a statement that would come from someone outside the left, who was accidentally using their own viewpoint on CNN (that it's "liberal") and not the fake leftist view they were supposed to be using.
But yes, CNN criticizing Biden on immigration means more or less nothing. I actually talked a little more at length -- I think with you -- about the ACLU's criticism of him, which although I would take a lot more seriously I also don't agree with, and I explained some of the reasons why. But, predictably, you ignored it and just went back to repeating over and over again that Biden is bad on immigration.
I can't think of a news source that isn't corporate garbage, other than DN and a few other indies. Our news has arguably been corporate garbage since Hearst and the Spanish-American War (you can look up his infamous quote, how Pulitzer competed with his publications, etc. For decades, I was a loyal Dem voter, even suppporting Billary; I was disgusted enough after his second term to start looking hard at Kucinich, and that election cycle, the media mentioned him once or twice in a sentence or two; compare that to the platforms they gave Killary, W and other was criminals, or the recently convicted felon.
I've learned to be terse in political commentary, if Eve6n commenting at all because I'm sick of being called a Russian bot. I'm not even adverse to the Russian people, nor am I willing to deny genocide, but "Joe doesn't genocide, you Russian shill" in some form or other gets damned old. Even when he's playing in our faces, we get told begrudgingly by very few, "he genocides less than the other guy would!" Right, like he's so different on other policies.
We do need to demand better candidates from the DNC or better, vote for other parties candidates, but only Russian or CCP shills would dare think outside the box.
TBD idk if Oz is a hired or sock puppet account or not, but refusing to question ourselves and our parties and individual candidates doesn't make us different, from the other side, it just rearranges deck chairs on the Titanic (nation, planet). It's late and I'm not really interested in arguing the same tired points. Just putting it out there in wild hope someone interested in hearing actually will consider it.