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[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Section 3 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Unfortunately, it is left to Congress to declare an insurrection, and that section is of little use to us. That was adjudicated with several states trying to remove him from the ballot. So he doesn't need to be requalified.

I question that decision, particularly given the current extremely partisan court. But unfortunately our constitution gives us no recourse save impeachment or passing explicit laws that are within the framework of the constitution, but bar Trump.

The votes aren't there for either so the law holds that the supreme court's interpretation that Congress must vote to declare an act to be insurrection is currently the law of the land.

We have a tremendous fight ahead of us to undo all the harm Trump caused in his first term. I'm talking perhaps decades.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

given the current extremely partisan court

Note that on this particular matter, they ruled unanimously that Trump couldn't be removed from ballots.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Very true. The partisanship calls into question everything the court does, but the unanimity is a strong statement. There are reasons for it, but it's frustrating to watch a crowd of people violently attack the Capital for the express purpose of preventing the lawful transfer of power and then have the courts say damn our eyes, Congress gets to decide.

It very clearly was the thing we all saw with our own eyes as it happened, but the right side of Congress won't say so because it's to their political advantage.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Agreed, though to be fair, since we all saw it with our own eyes, you would hope we would move to prevent it by voting against him.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The Section 3 clause absolutely has not been adjudicated. Nice try.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

Supreme Court said he can't be removed from the ballot based on that. Not sure what you call that, but the clause does us no good in preventing him from being elected.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The Supreme court's reply: Section 5 14th Amendment

They said only the national legislature can make this determination, based on section 5.

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