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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure how else to interpet this

To cut a long story short: anarchists believe that for the most part it is power itself, and the effects of power, that make people stupid and irresponsible.

Seems pretty clear cut.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And that quote proves your point in what way, exactly?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That quote is saying that everybody is a little goody too shoes inside their heart.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't. Tha's your priming talking.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok, explain what it means, please.

[–] spiderplant@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not OP but:

it is power itself, and the effects of power, that make people stupid and irresponsible.

I read it as; most people are negatively affected on both sides of power imbalances. The natural answer to this is to attempt to remove power imbalances.

In the context of decision making, no matter if you think humans are inherently goody two shoes or not; most people respond well to increased responsibility. More democratised decision making and ownership in a community creates a positive feedback loop. An easy to understand example is in a company a flat bonus for meeting your target gives no motivation to a worker after they meet that target compared to worker coops splitting profits evenly between all workers because they share ownership of the company.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

most people respond well to increased responsibility.

That's just a less condescending way of saying that everyone is a little goody two shoes.

[–] spiderplant@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People can be extremely evil and still respond positively to being given ownership of something. You're reading what you want to read, not whats actually there.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

You're splitting hairs. Evil people given ownership of something don't automatically stop being evil. They tend to be MORE evil. It's a ridiculous premise.