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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Of course they do.

That's the central reason that bribes need to be kept out of politics (and don't feed me any of that shit about lobbying as speech - they're bribes obviously). It's not simply that it's dishonorable or dishonest to base government policy on bribes paid - much more importantly it's that allowing bribes rewards and thus selects for people who are vile, self-serving scumbags.

It's not an accident that the billionaires and the politicians are almost entirely foul pieces of shit - it's because our corrupt political system actually rewards foul pieces of shit and penalizes anyone with actual morals or integrity. It's not just that politicians can take bribes, but that they essentially have to, just to keep up with the other candidates who do. And similarly it's not that the wealthy and the corporations can pay bribes, but that they essentially have to, just to compete against the other wealthy people and corporations who do.

Allowing bribes just creates a political system that's effectively gatekept - "You have to be this corrupt to take part in this system." And the people who aren't that corrupt are locked out.

Trump is certainly the most foul, loathsome, corrupt piece of shit in this election (not that Biden isn't one too - just that Trump has achieved depths virtually unheard of, even in the cesspool of US politics). So Trump is naturally the one who's going to get the lion's share of bribes from the foul, loathsome pieces of shit who pay the most and biggest ones.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

And it is extremely effective. How many generations in are we on "money is free speech" before we are literally combating fascism aided by the entire machine itself? If democracy survived this election, and our country thereafter it's pillaged, we need to move with the speed of gods to fix our system.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Remember this simple fact: in the US we call it lobbying, but every other country calls is corruption.