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Microsoft quietly added a new AI feature, called Cocreator, into its raster graphics editor included in every version of Windows since 1985. You need a Copilot + PC with an NPU that can deliver 40 TOPS or better to use it. So, you need to shell out at least $1,099 to get one of the new Snapdragon X Windows Copilot+ PCs that launched recently if you want your version of Microsoft Paint to come with Cocreator enabled.

However, Microsoft still requires you to sign in with your Microsoft account and be connected to the internet “to ensure safe use of AI.” According to Microsoft’s Privacy Statement, “Cocreator uses Azure online services to help ensure the safe and ethical use of AI. These services do content filtering to prevent the generation of harmful, offensive, or inappropriate content. Microsoft collects attributes such as device and user identifiers, along with the user prompts, to facilitate abuse prevention and monitoring. Microsoft does not store your input images or generated images.”

This is a nightmare for security and privacy-conscious users, especially as Microsoft recently blocked the last easy workaround to set up Windows 11 without a Microsoft account. Microsoft is likely doing this to stop unscrupulous users from generating illegal images like child and non-consensual deep fake pornography. However, storing this information is also a source of concern, as prompts a user typed in and stored on their account could be stolen. And, no matter how innocent, it could then be weaponized and used against them.

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[–] QuantumSoul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So that is the reason why paint was so bad for so many years. They were actually waiting for AI to improve the strokes so no need for good editing tools

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Paint is one of the best art programs available. I don't care if other people don't understand how to use it.

What happened to them adding layers to Paint? Did it turn into this AI version?

[–] QuantumSoul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No no no. It does basic things and people can be good at using it, but it's objectively bad since it lack features available in nearly all image editing softwares. Look at Paint dot net for example

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I like Paint because it lacks all of that. 95% of the time, I just need cut, rotate and resize.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I use MS Paint for similar purposes all the time.

It can be launched from the run prompt (Win + R and just slam in "mspaint" and hit enter), loads instantly, and is perfect for cropping a selection out of a screenshot and then using the chunky unprofessional doodle tools to draw a bunch of circles and arrows to illustrate with maximum snideness the position of whatever paragraph or interface element is clearly right there in the user's screen, but rather than use their eyeballs and comprehend with their brain they decided the best course of action was to bleat at me about it in a passive-aggressive email instead.

Two can play at that game. If I'm feeling particularly vindictive, I will intentionally not use the text tool but rather draw out my various "Look, dumbass, it's right here" labels with my mouse. The more they've irritated me the more eye-searing colors I'll use.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why are you hitting Win+R and using it to crop screenshots when you could just use Win+Shift+S and take the screenshot properly to begin with? Snipping Tool also allows you to do basic doodles, and it even has the ability to move straight to Paint if you want to do anything slightly more advanced.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because I've been doing it that way since Windows 95. Don't mess with my workflow, man.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Something like this is why every single Microsoft program or OS still has all the old options, shortcuts, control panel page, and MMC snap-in buried in it somewhere.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Nah, the reason MS products are such a mess is that they gave up on desinging software for the user and instead focused on what they could get out of it (stealing user data).

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And people complain Windows is overbloated...

...well, if we cut out all the backwards compatability, it might be pretty lightweight.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

But! You see, the accounting department of this Fortune 500 company is run by Gladys. Gladys wears 1000 denier stockings, a turtleneck sweater, and keeps her pointed glasses on a chain around her neck. Gladys never smiles. Gladys has been doing this job since 1992 so she knows it better than you, buster.

And Gladys has a spreadsheet she uses to calculate the entire company's payroll of several million dollars per month, and she originally made it in Excel 4.0 using XLM macros, and it relies on undocumented bugs from that version which now must be faithfully reproduced going forward forevermore. Otherwise Gladys will have a thermonuclear tantrum, the payroll will be late, and Microsoft will get sued.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

FYI Win+D sucks ass, because when you open something on your desktop it resets. Instead, if you use Win+M you will minimise all windows, then Win+Shift+M will restore them, regardless of any other windows you've opened.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Just as a sidenote for others, I have been using MyPaint for years now. It's open-source, cross-platform, supports graphic tablets, no AI bs. It's super stable, opens fast, and you can use it for maximum snideness by drawing circles and arrows

https://mypaint.app/downloads/

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly it didn't even have those in the beginning. I loved making random curves and filling the resulting shapes with some of the 16 (or 32?) colors available back then.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

Our first family computer, a tremendous beast with 128KB of RAM, a 40MB HDD and a whopping 6MHz processor that you could clock up to 12MHz, there was a program that I used to do that too. I can't remember what it was called, pretty sure it was not Paint tho (I faintly remember typing "colors" to get to it). You could draw squiggly lines with a pen tool, enter text, circles and squares, but no triangles. You could also fill shapes with color (2 switchable pallets with 16 colors each IIRC) and even "shade" the area. The shading was just diagonal, parallel lines, but you could choose which direction they go lol

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

I always need layers. Oops, maybe my needs aren't universal.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

95% of the time, I just need cut, rotate and resize.

Rotating in (classic) Paint is actually a huge challenge lol