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The teen's parents are calling for charges against the now-former coach.

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[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I see the point, but still think it's a misuse of the word "alleged". There is no doubt here that the teacher was strangling the kid: That part is on video, and is true whether or not they're convicted of a crime for it. Whether the strangling was a crime, or whether there were mediating circumstances that make it not a crime is what remains to be determined.

I just think we should be able to separate between "person allegedly committed a crime", which needs to be proven in court, or "person did XYZ and there is video evidence and multiple independent eyewitnesses accounts of it", which shouldn't need to be proven in court.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not up to a newspaper to declare any person as a criminal. "Alleged" is the only word they can use legally. And if we allow them to label people as criminals, all the hell will break lose.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I absolutely agree that newspapers shouldn't be allowed to label someone as a criminal before they have been sentenced. My point is that there's a difference between reporting indisputable facts about an event, and reporting that those facts make someone a criminal.

Reporting that "Video shows person X shooting person Y". Is different from reporting "Person X committed murder by shooting person Y", because in the second case you are reporting that they committed a crime, when they may be acquitted of murder in court for any number of reasons. Reporting that "Person X allegedly shot and killed person Y according to this video" makes it seem like there's any doubt about whether that happened.