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So what are the climate change denialists in your life saying right now? (lemmy.ca)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by someguy3@lemmy.ca to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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With the month long heat wave.

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[โ€“] DerKriegs@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While your numbers, if factual (no source posted), are statistically correct (in that it won't make our species go extinct), you have to remember a simple fact: those numbers represent individual human lives. Family, friends, neighbors, your pizza guy, etc. Pretty brutal to be so flippant about.

Also, this doesn't take into account the potential for cascading environmental system failures that could be caused by such warming. These unknowns could greatly change the equation.

I realize you are mainly arguing the point in response to "existential threats" being bandied about, but it's a weird stance to take here.

[โ€“] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's a real issue and actions needs to be taken to prevent the worst case scenario but I find it not useful when people extraggerate the dangers of it. It makes people suspicious about what other things we're being misled about.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health

[โ€“] DerKriegs@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the solid source! I do understand the need for keeping the discussion real, but the article clearly states,

...concluded that to avert catastrophic health impacts and prevent millions of climate change-related deaths...

Sounds pretty existential to me, at a scale we have never experienced.

[โ€“] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure. I'm in no way against fighting the climate change and under no illusion that it's not going to affect the lives of billions of people and will lead to probably tens of millions of unecessary deaths. It's a true crisis.

I just personally get irritated when people talk about it as if an asteroid is heading towards earth and is going to wipe out us all. It's unproductive and causes extreme anxiety to many (especially young) people who don't know better and it's also free ammunition for climate change deniers to point out how "the libs lie about this too" etc.

[โ€“] DerKriegs@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That anxiety bit is too true, it has me fairly despondent when I think about it too long. It's fair assertion you make, for sure.