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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I dislike Discovery, not true to Gene's vision.

It stopped being sci-fi and started being fantasy when they started with magical tardigrades and "time bugs". The rest plays like a space marines series.

Edit: also the spark and flame throwers on the bridge make it look like GWAR concert.

[–] venoft@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I dislike Discovery because it focuses on one main character instead of the entire crew.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's kind of exactly what I don't like about it and part of why I call it a "space marines" series. Gene's vision is of a future where different life forms come together and work under a unified code and for the greater good. It's not about one person rising to power and being the hero.

It feels like they are trying to graft the Star Wars theme onto Star Trek with hand wavey magical "forces" that don't have even the most tenuous link to science, and singular heroes that make anything that's worth happening happen. The original series at least tried to give a nod to the scientific consensus and then try to extrapolate it out.

[–] yuri@pawb.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, am I gonna hate Discovery? That sounds decidedly un-star trek.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Michael Burnham is somehow more valuable than everyone else in Starfleet when it comes to saving the universe. Then saving it again. Then going to the future and saving it again. It’s a bummer cause there are some great characters but no one does deus ex like Michael and yeah it does not feel like Trek

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thankfully TOS never did any fantasy stuff like galactic barriers, Trelane, massive green hands in space, or Abraham Lincoln. That wouldn't have been true to Gene's vision.

I'm not a fan of Disco either, but tardigrades and time bugs are really low on my list of complaints. Star Trek did lots of even whackier stuff over the last 60 years (or did everyone forget the "Fun with DNA" episodes of the 90s?). In fact, that time bug episode was probably the best 32nd century Disco episode. Which is a low bar, but anyway.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

I guess my issues with stuff like the tardigrade, time bug, spore drive, etc. is that it's just taking something from earth and putting it in space and saying it's the "space version". It's so lazy and stupid. At least TOS usually had some interesting reasoning behind why these things were happening or they were different enough from anything on earth that at least they felt novel and innovative.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Gene would have loved Discovery because it let characters say “fuck” and there’s nothing and no one Gene hated more than the censors.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

what about the special needs holograms that fail if you blink at them in the wrong way. What the hell was that about?

This is what happens when a stupid person tries to write a clever character. There's no actual intelligence it's all just stupid magic loopholes that our character knows for some random reason that makes no actual logical sense.