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[-] BaldDude@sh.itjust.works 44 points 4 months ago

Well, he's got that one right.

Elections should be as low tech as possible. Everything going on should be verifiable with your eyes and basic tools only.

Keep it simple and keep it monitored by at least 3 to 5 people at all times.

who cares if the counting takes a few days, as long as i can trust the results.

And dear fellows in the USA, for the love of god, move the voting day to a Sunday already.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 57 points 4 months ago

Counterpoint: There's a big difference between electronic voting machines and electronic counting machines.

The way we do elections in Canada, your vote is made on paper. The paper ballots are fed though electronic counting machines to get the initial tally, but the paper record is then kept and tallied up separately to check for discrepancies. This is both fast and secure.

Electronic voting machines, on the other hand, are an exercise in absolute insanity that security experts universally agree no one should be using.

Of course, Musk is railing against them because he's drunk the far right Kool-Aid about stolen elections, but actual smart, educated people have been saying the same thing for a lot longer.

[-] BaldDude@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Good point, thanks!

As long as the hand count is recognized as the actual result i would be fine with that.Knowing humans and our tendency to be lazy, i fear we would first reduce the redundant checks and then skip them completely. In the name of efficiency of course.

Also after witnessing the history of absolute fuckups my government (germany) produced in the field of software and IT, i don’t want them to use machines. They lost any trust i had in them with any kind of technology. Let them count and add up by hand, i’ll gladly pay extra taxes for that.

Maybe i’m just a bit to paranoid :/

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

As long as the hand count is recognized as the actual result i would be fine with that

That's how it works, yeah. Since there's unlikely to be any issue with the machine count, that works fine for getting results on the day, but ultimately you have the paper record that can be checked by hand, or run through different counting machines, in order to verify if there's any concerns.

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