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Next up: Struggles getting my HBA to see SAS drives (don't think it's 3.3v or 512 vs 520). What should I try? (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by nemanin@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Me again, back with another probably dumb question, but you beautiful bastards have been so helpful so far, I can't stay away!

I got 10x 10TB SAS drives from FB market place. They look like they're in good shape and the guy says he pulled them from the live server of a family member who passed. HGST. most/all are 2018.

I brought them home and tried to mount them one-by-one in an xpenology VM to smart test them (easiest place I had set up for SMART tests).

But most of my troubleshooting has just involved looking at the HBA menus in BIOS and seeing if the drives even show up. Currently only 1 seems to reliably.

and I got a weird mix of drive showing up fine, but others not showing up at all. I also got a couple drives that passed a SMART test, then when I pulled them and tried to remount them later, they don't even show up?

I tried using molex to SATA power adapters to rule out 3.3v, didn't help.

I don't think it's formatting because some of them mounted at least once and they all came from the same server.

I tried putting the HBA in another PCIe slot, plan to try the third slot tonight.

I have this HBA, confirmed in BIOS it's in IT mode: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BYZBNXBS/

(I'm having troubles finding a good manual for this board, by the way. there are flashing LEDs that may be trying to tell me something?)

and these breakout cables: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B9SBSVW/

I might try another HBA, rule out bad board. I plan to try the third PCIe slot tonight, try to rule that out...

What else?

They could be just bad drives, but the seller seemed genuine and they look like they're in good shape. He even pinged me after the sale to see how they worked out for me.. doesn't seem like a scammer.

Also, a couple questions: 1) these should be hot-swappable, right? and 2) what would happen if this PCIe x8 card is in a PICE x4 slot?

Thanks again. You guys have been great! :)

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a power issue. The BIOS should at least recognize the drive is there, regardless of what is on the drive. You may want to make sure whatever you're plugging into is actually set to manage SATA drives in the proper mode.

Maybe think about getting a USB to SATA adapter for cheap to make sure.

Other things:

are you hearing the drives spin when you plug them in? (SAS probably needs 5v or 12v, it'll say on the drive)
did you check if there are jumpers set for a specific mode of operation?
are you positive your drive controller can read other SATA devices?

To your last point, of it's an 8x card, it should work fine in a 4x slot, just at 4x speeds.

Edit: does your motherboard not have SATA? Try it there instead of this card to rule it out as a problem.

[–] nemanin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are SAS drives, not sata. Mobo does have SATA, but not SAS.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Their questions and suggestions still apply.

[–] nemanin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Ok. Fair enough.

I'm still working on the first 2, but on the 3rd, yes there are a couple drives that are up and working on the card. 2x 8tb drives (also HGST).