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Image is of the leaders of various parties making up the French left coalition in the coming parliamentary elections, from this article.


Macron has recently called a snap parliamentary election in the aftermath of the far-right getting a large proportion of the votes in the EU elections. Why exactly he called an election at a point of profound weakness is a little beyond me. Explanations that I've seen range from "He thinks the element of surprise will benefit his party and not others," to "WW3 is about to start and he doesn't want to be leader for it," (which, like, isn't true - Macron is the President of France, not Prime Minister, he won't be unseated by this election and he has said he will not stand down regardless of result), to "He doesn't want to swim in the shit-filled Seine."

While we still have a couple weeks to go, the polling I've seen generally puts the far-right in first place with the left-wing coalition slightly behind, with Macron's party all the way back in third place. Anybody who knows anything about French politics knows that while France does actually have something of a left opposition in aggregate (in contrast to the two wings of the Capitalist Party in the UK and the US, for example), French left coalitions are profoundly unstable and this one will inevitably split - perhaps even before the voting begins - meaning they aren't nearly as useful as they otherwise could be.

Living in a France governed by far right parties would be awful, but maybe they might at least be against the carnage in Ukraine, and sue for peace with Russia? Well, possibly not, if the example of Meloni in Italy is anything to go by. It seems that the differences between the "centrist" parties and the fascist ones truly are not that great, beholden to the exact same set of capitalists regardless of which party wins, and will likely bend the knee to NATO, though they may grumble a lot. Would a left coalition be better on Russia/NATO? They have already helpfully told us that they won't (only opposing sending French troops to Ukraine but otherwise being full steam ahead), and additionally are genocidal Zionists. Western leftists have long been hampered by a dramatically faulty misunderstanding of how geopolitics works, with many seemingly believing "imperialism is when countries interact with other countries" and "democracy is when you can vote between two parties even if widely popular policies aren't at all represented by either of them, and if those popular policies are enacted but it's by a one-party state then that's authoritarian evil" and other such strange ideas, making them terminally useless on foreign issues and pretty unremarkable on domestic issues too. France is no exception.

And just to top it all off, this is coming in a period of further imperial decline for the tattered remains of the French empire, with West Africa rebelling and Kanaky (New Caledonia) deeply unhappy with recent French decisions.


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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 78 points 4 months ago (7 children)

"The government of Ho Chi Minh City has, is, and will always support and create fertile opportunities for foreign investors, including Israel's, to invest and conduct safe, effective long-term business in the city."

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(Thanhuytphcm.vn) - On the evening of June 18, Vice Chairman of Ho Chi Minh City People's Committee Nguyen Van Dung attended and delivered a congratulatory speech at the ceremony celebrating the 76th anniversary of the Independence of the State of Israel.

According to comrade Nguyen Van Dung, over the past 30 years, since the two countries officially established diplomatic relations on July 12, 1993, the relationship between Vietnam and Israel has had positive developments in the world. many fields for peace, stability, cooperation and development in the region and the world. In 2023, bilateral trade turnover between Vietnam and Israel will reach 2.68 billion USD, an increase of 20% compared to 2022. Every year, Israel receives about 300 Vietnamese trainees to study and work on farms. Israel for a period of 1 year. After returning home, many trainees have made positive contributions to agricultural development in localities of Vietnam. In July 2023, the two countries signed a Free Trade Agreement, opening up many new opportunities for cooperation in the fields of economics, trade, investment, people-to-people exchange... between the two sides. next time.

Joining the general flow of good relations between Vietnam and Israel, Ho Chi Minh City always strives and is proud to contribute to the positive development of bilateral relations. Currently, Israel ranks 42nd out of 125 countries and territories investing in the City, with 27 projects and a total investment capital of nearly 14.5 million USD. Last August, the City also coordinated with the Israeli Embassy to organize the Vietnam-Israel Business Forum to create an exchange channel and support the business communities of both sides to strengthen connections and expand cooperation. collaborate and build trusted partnerships.

In efforts to promote cooperative relations between Ho Chi Minh City - Israel in particular and Vietnam - Israel in general, we appreciate and appreciate the companionship of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Israeli Embassy in Vietnam. Through the Israel International Development Cooperation Agency (Mashav), many delegations of City officials have participated in training programs on economic policy planning, innovation, agriculture, and education in Israel. and many competitions and programs to support young individuals starting a business have been implemented in the City. Experimental projects on high-tech dairy farming, application of climate management systems and smart irrigation... that the City and Israeli partners are continuing to implement with the support and connections of the Ambassador The Israeli Embassy is always a testament to the effectiveness of bilateral cooperation in promoting growth and lasting connection between the two sides.

Vice Chairman of Ho Chi Minh City People's Committee Nguyen Van Dung said that, in the context that Ho Chi Minh City is allowed by the Vietnamese National Assembly to pilot specific mechanisms and policies to accelerate development, we call on Israeli businesses and investors to consider This is like a "golden opportunity" to promote investment and seek new mutually beneficial cooperation models and projects with the City.

Comrade Nguyen Van Dung affirmed the consistent stance of the Ho Chi Minh City Government that has been and will always support, accompany and create the most favorable conditions for foreign investors, including Israeli businesses, to invest, produce and do business effectively, safely and long-term in the City. At the same time, the City government will always create favorable conditions and support the Israeli Embassy in promoting bilateral cooperation programs and projects, contributing to strengthening the friendly relationship and multifaceted cooperation between the two countries. water.

Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the State of Israel to Vietnam Yaron Mayer affirmed that Israel and Vietnam have had friendly and close diplomatic relations for more than three decades, with Vietnam becoming a top destination for tourists. Israel both for tourism and business. The two countries' relationship is mainly based on economic and technological cooperation. The signing of the Free Trade Agreement between the two countries is an important milestone built on trust and a common desire for a shared future.

According to the Israeli Ambassador, the two countries' trade turnover surpassed 2.7 billion USD last year. Israeli shipping company Zim, one of the world's leading shipping companies, has moved its Southeast Asia Hub to Vietnam, opening up a direct trade route between the two countries. Cooperation in education, science and research with young scientists and scholars plays a key role in the cooperation between Israel and Ho Chi Minh City.

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[–] puff@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago

Extremely cringe moment. I know they're desperate to keep their economic growth strong but jesus have some morals

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago

To go as far as to specifically (and only) name drop the zionist entity is wild pain

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I expected better from them.

Vietnam is in a difficult position and is dependent on good economic relations with the imperial core. Unapologetically standing on the right side of history might come with a steep cost for a place like Vietnam if the empire lashes out in revenge and making a despicable display like this might have earned them some form of reward from the empire.

Still, I had expected better.

Let us hope that Sino-Vietnamese relations can be mended, enabling Vietnam to pivot towards BRICS and the free world.

[–] geikei@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Vietnam is in a difficult position and is dependent on good economic relations with the imperial core

Eh i dont think thats an excuse tbh. Bunch of SEA nations, especially with large muslim minorities or majorities have at the very least taken a stong and loud pro-palestinian stance, even if its surface level and trade continues to go as is. Yeah they got some pressure from the west but nothing too dangerous. Vietnam could afford to have a better position on the issue than it does, comfortably. Cutting back from their way to extensive military cooparation and trade with Israel for example that even in nominal figures is one of the most extensive globably. Lib countries have done so , even performatively.

The real issue is ,and it often goes unnoticed, that Vietnam got into the capitalist,pro west and liberal brainrot comfortably more so than China during their oppening up, and hasnt really had a "course correction" like the Xi era has been for China. Of course they had huge issues to content and very hostile conditions after the Vietnam war but the current situation is what it is. Its seems weird but at the street level as well as in various official circles there is less pronounced distaste towards the western led neoliberal world order then in most of their non socialist neighbours. Free market good, foreign investment good , bamboo diplomacy good has been drilled a little to deep in most political and public life even if it started as pragmatic and controled choices by the communist party and it basicaly has put dogmatic blinders of the wrong ideology in a lot of their decision making . China had and still has this problem as well. Even the changes under Xi and the new cold war still havent managed to shake it off in a satisfactory degree. Regarding Israel there is a prominent view in liberal and west friendly market loving circles, that arent an unimportant force in Vietnamese politics and party, that its a enterprenaur nation that knows to get rich and technologicaly advanced and strong despite their size so there is a dumbass soft-admiration towards it

To end on a positive note tho, last i heard there has been an ongoing power stuggle inside the party and the less american/liberal friendly wing has been coming out on top and cleaning house. It wont cause some noticable shift, at least not one that they wanna show since America already is buying that Vietnam is an ally or whatever but it seems like there wont be a rightwing, neoliberal slide for the next decade at least there and there probably be more China intergration

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

Free market good, foreign investment good , bamboo diplomacy good has been drilled a little to deep in most political and public life even if it started as pragmatic and controled choices by the communist party

I fully understand the need to develop the productive forces after the revolution in a country that has not experienced a fully developed capitalist phase. And in a world dominated by capitalists, it makes sense to play ball with them until those productive forces are sufficiently developed. BUT… this is precisely the thing that worries me about it. You are essentially inviting the capitalist disease into the party, and you just have to sort of trust that party won’t succumb to the disease. And as successful as this approach has been in China and Vietnam, maintaining ideological purity in the party seems incredibly difficult.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

Their military cooperation largely consists of obtaining domestic weapon production. Few countries are willing to transfer their tech to Vietnam which makes Vietnam dependent on their partners for supplies.

Bunch of SEA nations, especially with large muslim minorities or majorities have at the very least taken a stong and loud pro-palestinian stance, even if its surface level and trade continues to go as is.

Vietnam censors pro-israel content in the country