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[–] emmanuel_car@kbin.run 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

if you instead say you're going to teach them consensus reality, and use words like "education" and "lifting out of poverty" and "they're being deprived with their biological parents", you'll convince more people that kidnapping is morally right.

Excuse me, what? In what modern context is this occurring? That Australians think this is morally right? I run in very left wing circles, but I don’t think I know of any Australian who thinks this is a morally right positions, or that when this was done it the past it was ok, save maybe extremists like Pauline Hanson, even then I don’t think she’d put that opinion out there in public.

Also this doesn’t make sense, you say you can teach a child religion by putting a church in their community, but the only way to teach them consensus reality is to kidnap them, instead of, I don’t know, building a school in their community?

For the record, as a rule I don’t support cultural genocide, all indigenous peoples should be given equal opportunity to stay connected to their heritage as well as participate in “consensus reality”, one shouldn’t have to choose, especially if one’s people have existed on the land for 50k+ years.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

You're right, few people think this was okay these days. The arguments I'm talking about apply to the cultural conditions of the 1970s, when people did think this was okay.

A school can teach numbers and letters, and those are part of reality, but cultural values are more slippery, and they're also part of consensus reality. The reason that racists in the government kidnapped children is for total cultural immersion, and the eradication of indigenous reality.