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[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

They weren't a liberal democracy, which is different, they very much were a socialist democracy.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Okay so you really are a troll then lol.

A socialist democracy, what's next, a dictator-democracy?

Wait, that's your definition of China!

Looooool

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

It's definitely better than what you have in the US, which whatever it is, it's not a democracy.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I am not an American lol.

[-] orbit@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

The US absolutely has its own set of issues, but I'm still not clear why you are unable to address the initial points made in regards to Xi and China and have instead changed the discussion to US flaws.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Just because you don't know what terms mean doesn't mean the person you're interacting with is a troll. Socialist, especially in this context, has a lot more to do with the economic order. That's why socialist democracy is not an oxymoron, nor is capitalist-autocracy for example. Dictator-democracy is not even similar, because you're abutting two governmental structure systems, not one governmental structure system with one economic system. Dictator-democracy and Capitalist-Communism both don't make sense as terms. Socialist democracy absolutely does.

If you want to argue the veracity of the claim that they were a socialist democracy or not, go for it. But as it is, you are the one trolling here, either purposefully or just inadvertently due to not understanding what you're responding to and thus assuming the person you're responding to is speaking nonsense.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Just because you don’t know what terms mean doesn’t mean the person you’re interacting with is a troll.

So you start your "rebuttal" with a slight insult, well well, you are right of course, if I do not know something doesn't mean you are a troll (or the person I responded to) but check out his posts and come back and say you see no trolling.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It wasn't an insult at all. Plenty of ways to phrase what I said as an insult, and I used none of them. I was pointing out that: (1) you didn't seem to know what terms meant, and thus (2) were using that as reason to assume the other person is a troll.

I'm not defending the other person either, I just get annoyed when I see people assume everyone is trolling simply because they're offering a contrasting opinion on something. If someone really is trolling, it shouldn't be hard to point to why you think that.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

He did say that the country of China, which is a dictatorship, is in fact a democracy.

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

You're right, I missed that. I removed that bit from my comment, as I think the rest still holds.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, I probably got carried away a bit too, cheers!

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