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[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What even is bail anyway? I've never understood this concept. Either you deserve to be in custody, or you don't. And the one singular thing that could never change this is whether you can put money down. Good behavior, maybe. Or a time limit on how long you can be in custody before facing trial. But not a fucking down payment, are you kidding me?

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Like many things it's a solution to a problem that's now solved in other ways, originally it was really easy to skip town and make a new identity so they had to have enough collateral to know you'll come back - if you're facing two years in jail if you lose the trial or losing 5 years worth of money if you flee it's more likely you'd turn up to court.

I guess it became a money thing at some point, the rich like it because they can avoid the same harsh laws the poor suffer, then lending money became an industry and of course they use some of the money they screw out of poor people to lobby the government to make the system even less fair... plus j imagine all sorts of clever accounting makes use of the money while in the courts hands, probably earns some kickbacks somewhere.

Abolishing it and creating a more sane modern system would be a good thing but it'd be unpopular for many reasons - but we've always done it like this, but we would have a budget hole, but why are they making things easier for criminals when my life is hard / climate change / war / etc... politicians don't deal with issues like this because the voting public would punish them if they did even though the voting public largely agrees and would likely totally agree if they understood it - which they never will because their opposition will find clever ways to make it seem complicated or turn it Into a culture war issue / moral crusade.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

It's to make sure you show up for your actual trial.

Obviously she committed a crime, so she was jailed, but they have to do all the work to put the case together to prove it at trial. During that time, they don't want you to skip town and avoid justice, so they put you in jail. But keeping people in jail is expensive, so you can give them a pinky-promise based on your reputation ("personal recognizance"), or something of value that you get back when the trial happens (bail money).

You can still skip bail, you'll just lose that money, and I'm sure there are additional charges for when they find you.