Proton
Empowering you to choose a better internet where privacy is the default. Protect yourself online with Proton Mail, Proton VPN, Proton Calendar, Proton Drive. Proton Pass and SimpleLogin.
Proton Mail is the world's largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free.
Proton VPN is the world’s only open-source, publicly audited, unlimited and free VPN. Swiss-based, no-ads, and no-logs.
Proton Calendar is the world's first end-to-end encrypted calendar that allows you to keep your life private.
Proton Drive is a free end-to-end encrypted cloud storage that allows you to securely backup and share your files. It's open source, publicly audited, and Swiss-based.
Proton Pass Proton Pass is a free and open-source password manager which brings a higher level of security with rigorous end-to-end encryption of all data (including usernames, URLs, notes, and more) and email alias support.
SimpleLogin lets you send and receive emails anonymously via easily-generated unique email aliases.
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Remember if a service is free then YOU are the product.
Edit: 🤡: no you don't understand I like this company, so there's no way they would ever do something underhanded like literally every other company ever 🤡
Proton recently became a non-profit organisation.
This commitment means that they work for the people.
Oh my sweet summer child.
Do you also use the same argument for libre software?
Comparing a completely offline software to a VPN that literally routes all your internet traffic through their own servers is completely apples to oranges.
Fair enough. My only gripe was with that umbrella statement. You are right that with these perpetually online SaaS companies, one must carefully assess their threat models
This is not the case with Proton. Paid subscriptions effectively subsidize free users.
They also subsidise the CEOs salary. And when him, his successor or someone else high up in the company decides that's not enough for them, that treasure trove of consumer information is going to be awfully tempting to sell if they aren't already.
And how are they supposed to sell consumer information that's end-to-end-encrypted?
Are you aware you dont need to understand the actual data to build data on a consumer. Even when its end-to-end encrypted proton still know your IP, the IP you're trying to access, number of packets (data size) your online times etc.
So while they cant read your facebook messages, they know how often, and at what times you use facebook messenger, netflix, youtube etc. And they can turn that into a profile on you that they can sell.
Even if Proton VPN collects logs (which hasn't been proven once in its 7 years of operation), it becomes a matter of who you'd rather trust with your browsing habits: Your ISP or Proton.
That is true, as it is true for payed services too. It isn't in any way impossible that user data of paying customers is sold. You either trust them, or you don't.
Not even an audit is helping when evil people are evil.
I'm feeling a bit cynical about this as well, despite their great reputation. Free never really means free in 2024. There's always a catch...
Remember: You aren't paying for your lemmy.world account so you're totally a product!
Yep