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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nobody of consequence ran. Literally anybody could have run. They didn’t.

Yes, exactly. That's why no one considers their vote in the 2024 primary to be a real indication of preference. If you think your vote for a forgone conclusion was some solemn compact, that's a you issue. Votes without meaningful choice aren't meaningful votes.

[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Democracy doesn't guarantee you'll have good options, just that you have options. The time to express the greatest degree of preference is primaries. It's how the system works. You can be mad about that, but that's how it works. And it's fair, and it's democratic, and anybody can participate in it. And every four years, like clockwork, people come out of the woodwork to complain about how their vote doesn't matter and the two-party system is corrupt and yada yada who never even took the time to vote in the primary or downballot elections. It's equivalent to people who complain that the president isn't getting x done while not voting in mid-terms to secure a congress who can make sure those things actually can get done. Primaries and downballot elections are how to build a candidate's resume and experience to run in a presidential election. Luckily for primary voters, the party doesn't listen to these people, they respect the ballots cast by their primary voters. I don't think they should have run Hillary, but she got the most primary votes so that's who they ran. There is nobody to blame there but her primary voters.

The levers of power are available to people, we just have to consistently use them.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

I'm not mad about it, that's usually how incumbent primaries go. No one believes single-contender votes are sacred expressions of democracy though. Maybe no one except you, but as previously stated, that's a you issue.

[–] blaine@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Biden and the DNC knew that if he was forced to actually debate in an open primary, he'd be weakened as a candidate and would eventually lose to Trump. So they rigged the primary, hoped they could sneak a senile old man through without us realizing, and now they got caught.

The people in power are perfectly content to lose the cycle and try again in 2028. Newsom, Whitmer, etc. are all lining up to run against Trump's VP next cycle since he's term limited. And the reason Biden hasn't been thrown overboard yet is that the other potential candidates haven't decided if they want to throw away their carefully laid plans for 2028 to take a gamble here in 2024.

The only people that truly believe Trump winning in 2024 means there won't be an election in 2028 are the most myopic hyper partisan Democrat voters, and they believe that because it's a useful fallacy for the Democratic elite to have them believe. Because fear is the only motivator they have left at this point. But their actions clearly show that they don't believe it themselves.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Democracy doesn’t guarantee you’ll have good options, just that you have options.

One option? Oh my go's, how awful. Terrible way to live your life.

Two options? Oh WOW much democracy. The options! So much REPRESENTATION! Choose your flavourful brand of genocide today!

[–] Chakravanti@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

Your wrong. That's not power. That's trick delusional for being any such a thing. Back in the day it was but everything is now a charade.

Sure, I vote, but it doesn't matter. I know and I know what is going to happen now because of that obvious noose.