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On Monday, the Supreme Court ruled that American presidents have “absolute immunity” from prosecution for any “official acts” they take while in office. For President Joe Biden, this should be great news. Suddenly a host of previously unthinkable options have opened up to him: He could dispatch Seal Team 6 to Mar-A-Lago with orders to neutralize the “primary threat to freedom and democracy” in the United States. He could issue an edict that all digital or physical evidence of his debate performance last week be destroyed. Or he could just use this chilling partisan decision, the latest 6-3 ruling in a term that was characterized by a staggering number of them, as an opportunity to finally embrace the movement to reform the Supreme Court.

But Biden is not planning to do any of that. Shortly after the Supreme Court delivered its decision in Trump v. The United States, the Biden campaign held a press call with surrogates, including Harry Dunn, a Capitol police officer who was on duty the day Trump supporters stormed the building on Jan. 6; Reps. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) and Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas); and deputy campaign manager Quentin Fulks.

Their message was simple: It’s terrifying to contemplate what Donald Trump might do with these powers if he’s reelected.

“We have to do everything in our power to stop him,” Fulks said.

Everything, that is, except take material action to rein in the increasingly lawless and openly right-wing Supreme Court.

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[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 79 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Conservatives, I understand. They're sick, and toxic, but they fight for what they believe in. Which is why we have to defeat them, and why we have to fight back so hard.

But Liberals, man, I just don't get it. Like zero goddamn fight in them. No political will. Not in my lifetime anyway. "Hey we're kinda less shitty than fascists, vote Democrat."

And I have to, but like, only to keep from sliding into the abyss in my own lifetime. So inspiring. Time to start over.

[–] hypnoton@discuss.online 25 points 4 months ago

Because libs self-limit. And that's because they believe themselves to be "good" people. "Good people don't do that." Thinking that you're good while your foe is evil or ungood is a type of hubris.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You are confusing liberals and centrist democrats. Biden and his other centrists are not putting up a fight at all. While liberals like AOC, Sanders and porter have been fighting since day 1. I'm a liberal and every traitor connected to this coup should be hung.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You are confusing liberals and centrist democrats.

No, he's not. Liberalism is a center-right ideology. Liberals and centrist Democrats are the same people.

You're the one using the term incorrectly as some kind of synonym for leftists.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You can usually tell how old someone is by whether or not they think, "liberal," and, "progressive," are synonyms.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Progressive can mean liberal, I mean look at ole Bull Moose Teddy Roosevelt. He was both progressive and liberal. Generally social Democrat does not though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Classical_radicalism

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

Counterpoint- you can tell how terminally online someone is by thinking liberal doesn't mean progressive in the US.

I disagree with the labeling but it's one of the silly infighting things people on the left have to understand. Fifteen years ago I was proud to call myself a liberal. Now I know the "real" definition and I don't call myself that. But my positions haven't changed much. I'm really hearing what anarchists have to say these days but I call myself a socialist, the same as I did back then.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz -2 points 4 months ago

News flash, words are used differently in different countries. You can try to fight semantic battles on archaic or international definitions of "liberal", but that's a pointless waste of time and not what it means to most Americans. It's well past the point that an incorrect usage has become an alternate definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberalism

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because they actually believe in democracy and believe that it's the people that should prove they disagree by not electing Republicans but again and again the people prove in high enough numbers that they would rather vote against their best interests.

[–] Akuden@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It is a fundamental misunderstanding and mistake to believe that people don't vote the way you want them too is because they are less intelligent than you.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We’re here, and we’re waiting for the rest of the populace to figure it out. Because we can’t start a revolution on our own. But you need to realize that people will die for this cause, maybe even you. Are you really ready to fight?

I’ve said it before and I’ll link to that here: https://lemmy.world/comment/6020397

Ok. Post was deleted but my comment was there. Screenshot for the win.