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I’ll vote for any D, no matter what, but Biden is a sure loser in the general. Independents are fucking mentally defective. You need a showman to win at the margins, where this idiotic election will be decided.
I can’t believe how many of you are so myopic as to think everything’s fine.
Jon Stewart '24
I swear that he might have to do it just to save us, but then again, Biden and Harris both need t drop out of the race so we dont waste time in primaries.
When the choice is between and Felon, with many more charges coming, and just an old guy, I am super shocked at how many Americans can't decide between democracy and a corrupt dictatorship. It's even being presented factually to them, directly in front of their faces, and they still choose to ignore reality. As if continually doubling down will eventually work out... not sure what their plan is going to be, but they have all burned every bridge aside from other MAGA losers.
Independent leftist here, planning on voting Biden with zero hesitation.
Voting for democrats no matter what is a great reason why the Democratic party today doesn't care about people and actually doing things for them. (Similar with republican party) if you always vote for them no matter and don't withhold your votes and punish them when they don't deliver then this will only continue.
Oh fuck off.
Very intellectual response, thank you.
You’re the dumbfuck telling people not to vote, you expect a better response? Fuck off.
You are stupid, don't know how to read and disingenuous. Now point out to me exactly where did I say in my comment above don't vote?
So, you'd vote for literally ANY Democrat, no matter WHAT, but you think it's the independents who are mentally defective? You think anyone who ISN'T 100% committed to political party tribalism is defective? Well, I adamantly disagree. I think it's the unquestioningly partisan voters who are the defective ones.
I get the whole tribalism bad thing but come on, man. How could any D be a worse choice than Trump?
They didn't say they would vote for any D so long as they are better than Trump, they specifically said any D no matter what. There's a big fucking difference.
Your reading comprehension might need work. Its very obvious they were talking about the current presidential election in which the choice is Trump or a Democrat.
he's itching for an internet fight.
I think it's more along the lines of "I don't want the other guy to win" so they'd vote for a carrot over the offered Republican, who they know what they stand for. They'd prefer a better Dem, but anything to stem the bleeding.
The mentally deficient ones are the ones that can't seem to decide when the choices are obvious.
Again, you folks are ignoring a key part of what was written. They didn't say they would vote for any D so long as the Ds can be considered a preferable choice by reasonable and informed people, they LITERALLY said "no matter what." I sincerely hope you can see a difference.
No one is ignoring anything. Well, except you, since you seem to need every bit of context spelled out for you before you can derive intended meaning from four sentences. Like fuck man, I don't know how you get through the day with that level of incompetence.
I get through my days perfectly fine. Quite well, actually. I'm not the incompetent here. The person said that they would vote D no matter what, and that independents must be mentally deficient. The implication couldn't be clearer: the Democratic party represents the correct, orthodox ideology, and thus they should be supported no matter what, the Republican party represents an incorrect, heterodox ideology, and any independent who doesn't recognize that must be mentally deficient. To illustrate my point, simply imagine the same statement only with the D replaced with an R. The problem isn't that some people adhere to wrong ideologies, the problem is ideology itself. Everyone should be an independent, instead of adhering rigidly to one ideology or another. That doesn't mean all ideologies are equally harmful, and many, if not most, independents know that. In fact, I think many, if not most, independents recognize that Biden and the Democrats are the less harmful of the two options, which is why I think many, if not most, independents will vote for Biden in the general election. Many people are simply confusing independents' criticisms and displeasure as a failure to recognize that the Democrats are the less harmful option.
As multiple people have already explained to you, in this instance, the Democratic candidate is the only realistic way forward. You are, stupidly, expanding that to all choices forever because, again, you can’t seem to pick up on context.
You know when a walk sign on a traffic light says “walk,” and then it changes to “don’t walk”? You don’t wander into traffic because it said walk ten seconds ago, right? The poster is trying to tell you not to walk into traffic. The next election cycle, they might say something else, because the situation may have changed. Stop reading things that aren’t there.
There was no indication the person was talking specifically about a certain instance, and there's significant reason to believe their rhetoric is not context specific to the upcoming election alone, as this exact rhetoric has been used multiple times over multiple elections, and I have every reason to believe this exact rhetoric will continue to be used in future elections, even in elections that don't involve Donald Trump.
So the fact that the poster talked about the current candidate and the current election just flew right past you, just like the rest of the point, then? I’m not surprised.
My man. Why are you arguing with these Lemmy users? They are the same people from Reddit. This argument wouldn't go down easily on Reddit and it won't go down here on Lemmy. They live in their own world. Reality will hit them come November. I've been around actual people and they are all not feeling Biden. From professionals, businessmen, tradesmen to random people in Walmart and homies sitting at the corner. They'd rather vote Trump. They don't give a fuck about convictions or the type of person he is.
There are currently no democratic politicians worse than trump, so it didn't really need to be specified.
In order to write this comment, you have to be willing to ignore the existence of cause and effect. Very willfully I'd add
Well, considering how much I deeply despise Trump, and that the Republican party at this point is just a straight up criminal and fascist organization, absolutely.
/jk